No arguments here. :-)
Tom C. >From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> >Subject: Re: Stolen Photos >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:27:58 -0700 > >True, but I champion for liberty anyway, even if sometimes I feel I'm >"tilting at windmills". > >Regards, >Bob Blakely >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"Liberty, Sancho, my friend, is one of the most precious gifts >that Heaven has bestowed on mankind" > - Don Quixote > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Well I didn't make the original statement I was just giving my take on >it. > > :-) > > > > I don't know how we got to founding documents but it's important to > > remember > > 1) that the founding documents of almost every nation, even the 1977 > > Soviet > > constitution, propose to guarantee essentially the same common set of > > basic > > rights and 2) the documents are pieces of paper which can be > > interpreted/misinterpreted by those in power, much the way treaties are. > > > > The founding documents of the United States have not stopped the > > travesties > > of justice that occur here routinely with liberty and the pursuit of > > happiness. > > > >>From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>So basically, it's NOT fear of their neighbor's freedom in the sense >folks > >>would normally take your statement, it's fear of their neighbor's >license > >>(Lack of due restraint; excessive freedom: "When liberty becomes >license, > >>dictatorship is near" - William Durant, or freedom that allows or is >used > >>with irresponsibility and disregard for standards of personal conduct : > >>LICENTIOUSNESS, - that which usurps a liberty at the expense of denying > >>another's liberty). > >> > >>Our founding documents distinguish between what they referred to as > >>liberty > >>and license. > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > >William Robb wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > I just don't understand where this kind of thinking comes >from..... > >> >> > >> >>(US) Americans are scared of freedom. Not their own, their >neighbors'. > >> >> And I say that as an (US) American. > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >>Thanks, > >> >>DougF (KG4LMZ) > >> >> > >> > That's exactly right. I know we've gone down this path before here. > >> > All > >> > one > >> > has to do in this legal system is bring a claim to court that if >proven > >> > true > >> > would require the court to intervene. The court is then basically > >> > obligated > >> > to hear the case. So any ill-meaning individual can turn your life >to > >> > hell > >> > if they've got the the gumption to proceed. It's especially bad if >the > >> > person is both ill-willed and well- healed. > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
