Try this:

http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm

With use, it (or your own version) becomes second nature.

Just how many PDML trailers do you have to post anyway?

Regards,
Bob...
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> 90% of the time any metering system works well, the other 10% of the time 
> you
> have to think. That assumes serious photography, for snapshooters it is 
> 99% and
> 1% so they don't have to bother thinking <tongue slightly in cheek>.
>
>
> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>> Thank you very much for this input.  I have considered these points.
>> Your "anecdotal" reasoning seems rather sound.  The "common sense"
>> perspective would dictate: all metering systems have flaws, and the
>> human mind far surpasses anything a camera can do.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Glen
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Tom Cakalic wrote:
>>
>>> Frankly, I find multi-segment metering to be not too different than
>>> center-weighted metering.  I say this from an anecdotal basis not
>>> one of
>>> measurement.  In the end the expected exposure is supposed to
>>> hopefully be
>>> overall best possible exposure.
>>>
>>> The thing is, the camera is not smart enough to know what is
>>> background,
>>> what is foreground, what is the main subject vs. what is simply there.
>>>
>>> I almost always compensate for backlighting, snow scenes, dark
>>> backgrounds,
>>> etc., when shooting in multi-segment mode and when in center-
>>> weighted mode.
>>> A more generic, evenly lighted, evenly toned composition may not
>>> need any
>>> compensation at all.
>>>
>>> Tom C.
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>> Glen,
>>>> My opinion - multi segment is touted as special and more accurate.
>>>> I learned to shoot and compensate for lighting on an ME and a Super
>>>> Program.
>>>> Both are center weighted and give predictable responses to special
>>>> situations.
>>>> I never got used to multi segment metering.
>>>> I'm sure the readings were good, but the computer integration of the
>>>> results was un-predictable to me.  I find myself preferring spot or
>>>> center-weighted to this day.
>>>> Something akin to "Plant a radish, get a radish..."
>>>> Regards, Bob S.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/4/07, Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is multi-segment metering always better than center-weighted
>>>>> metering?  My ZX-M has TTL multi (2)-segment metering, while my
>>>>> Super
>>>>> Program has open aperture, TTL center-weighted metering.  From
>>>>> what I
>>>>> know about the matter, multi-segment is more precise, but I
>>>>> thought I
>>>>> would inquire about this, as I am not an expert.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Glen


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