Your trying to make my analogy fit perfectly to some rules you have in your head. I was not. It was a general analogy.
That is, if you give me a component of a system and and I don't have the requisite parts of the system to make that component useful, then it is potentially of little value. Obviously, if I have the requisite parts, then the value increases. The winning party(ies) that receive a lens, flash, or instruction manual, who are not currently Pentax owners, will have received something of dubious value. Tom C. >From: Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:58:02 +0200 > >Tom C wrote: > > Well I'm sorry you don't get it. > > >No, I think you don't get it. > >First of all, your hubcap or owners manual analogy is neither here nor >there. A hubcap or an owners manual is not integral to the operation of >a car, and I've never seen any that have a price that's anywhere near >the price of the car itself. > >Like I said, there isn't really any equivalent to the camera body and >lens situation in the auto industry, but if anything, the lens is like >the engine. Maybe it's somewhat more relevant to compare with boats, >where people might actually buy the engine separately. If we do, we >might say you are complaining that the big Johonsonian sweepstake gives >away outboard engines and not boats. > >Secondly: My main point was that Pentax is not just a camera company, >but also an optical company. And I don't mean a camera company that >fiddles around in the optical business a bit so as to have something to >put on their camera bodies. Pentax is an optical company first, a camera >a company second. And you are complaining because they give away optics... > > Even though we now know the site was not designed to attract new >business to > > Pentax, let me ask... If you won an owners manual or a hubcap for an > > automobile you didn't own, what would you do with it? > > >Let me ask you instead: If you owned a car without a hubcap, what would >you do with it? > >Now, consider a camera without a lens... > >And apart from all that, if I was about to buy a camera, and was given >an expensive lens for one particular system, I really do think I would >choose a body matching it. > >- T > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > >> From: Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >> Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest > >> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:36:19 +0200 > >> > >> Tom C wrote: > >> > >>> No why would I have a problem with anyone receiving a nice prize? You > >>> obviously chose to ignore my first two sentences. > >>> > >>> I'm just pointing out the irony of a *camera company* having >"legendary" > >>> products not giving some of those legendary cameras away in a >'contest'. > >>> > >>> > >> Actually, I'm not sure Pentax is a camera company. Or I guess they may > >> be, but a *camera company*? I doubt it. After all, we are talking about > >> the manufacturer of the stuff my optometrist will put inside the frames > >> if I buy a new pair of specs from him... > >> > >> > >>> It would be like a major auto manufacturer running a contest and >instead > >>> > >> of > >> > >>> including an automobile as a prize, they give away owners manuals or > >>> hubcaps. > >>> > >>> > >> It's actually rather more like if Suzuki decided to give you a >motorbike > >> instead of a car. But not quite. Actually, I can't think of a good > >> analogy in the business you are referring to; yours definitely makes > >> little sense. Unless you know a hubcap producer that has later expanded > >> into an automobile manufacturer. > >> > >> - T > >> > >>> Tom C. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >>>> Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest > >>>> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:35:28 -0700 > >>>> > >>>> Gads, Tom. How could they make such an egregious error? > >>>> > >>>> Sheesh. It seems you always something to be critical about, even when > >>>> someone has been gifted with a very nice prize unexpectedly. I guess > >>>> for some people the glass is always half empty. > >>>> > >>>> Godfrey > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sep 12, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Tom C wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Good for you. Getting a free lens when you're already a Pentax user >is > >>>>> great. > >>>>> > >>>>> Pentax is being pretty cheap and backwards though. Why not give > >>>>> away a few > >>>>> camera bodies to boot? That way people that visit Pentaxian.com > >>>>> that are > >>>>> not Pentax users, if winning a body, would be introduced to Pentax > >>>>> and have > >>>>> an incentive to buy more Pentax gear. > >>>>> > >>>>> OTOH, If I went to a site like this and I was not a current Pentax > >>>>> owner, > >>>>> none of the prizes, not even a lens or a flash, would provide me the > >>>>> incentive to run out and spend money on a body to go with it. > >>>>> > >>>>> They can't afford to include a single K10D or K100D on the prize >list? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>> PDML@pdml.net > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > > > > > > > > >-- >Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +47 66 85 51 22 >ProCaptura AS +47 66 85 51 00 (switchboard) >http://www.procaptura.com/~toralf +47 66 85 51 01 (fax) > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
