I don't belong to any service, when I click on the link below it takes me to a page with the Docket for the case. You only have to log in to read the details. This I believe should be open to everyone. It's a public proceeding, but apparently the public isn't trusted with public knowledge.
Tom C wrote: > I may be stupid, but when I click on the link it seems to want me to > subscribe to a service to be able to read the crud. > > > > Tom C. > > >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >> Subject: Re: Photographer Being Sued >> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:22:03 -0400 >> >> Here you go, read the docket! >> >> http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-scdce/case_no-2:2007cv03264/case_id-153215/ >> >> >> >> Bob Blakely wrote: >> > This can be a fuzzy area. Apparently the photographer was on private >> > property and the photos were taken of that same private property; >> further, >> > it appears that the photographer did not have permission from the >> owner(s) >> > to even be there, let alone take photographs. Now, had he taken the >> photos >> > from public property where what he photographed was easily visible >> to the >> > public, the College of Charleston Foundation would generally have >> no legal >> > standing. >> > >> > Photographers have been successfully prosecuted for going onto the >> property >> > of celebrities to take their photographs or photographs of their >> property >> > furnishings. It is an issue both of privacy and of the right of a >> owners to >> > control what happens on their property. Note that the College of >> Charleston >> > Foundation is a private organization - not public, and the owners >> of this >> > nonprofit organization have rights too. >> > >> > As far as copyright is concerned, this doesn't seem to be an issue >> brought >> > up by the foundation, but raised by the photographer's counsel. >> What I'm >> > saying is that this is probably not a copyright case and the issue of >> > copyright may well not come into the judges consideration. >> > >> > Look, if several of my fellows and I owned a piece of property, and we >> > didn't want photographers coming onto our property to take photos - >> for ANY >> > reason, or if we were conservators of the estate of someone who >> didn't want >> > photographers coming onto the property to take photos - for ANY >> reason, and >> > you did, and we found out about it, your as would be in court. It >> would be a >> > case od, "It's our goddam property, we get to control it and what >> happens on >> > it within the law and you (the photographer) are not imbued with >> special >> > privileges over others and their property simply because you have a >> camera >> > or you make your living with a camera. The issue of copyright would >> never >> > come up in court - our private property rights would. Now, if you >> get your >> > shots from off my property, I can say nothing. >> > >> > If you want to take and use shots of private places from the >> private places, >> > get permission (preferably written releases). If they say no, >> sorry, your >> > "need" for the shot(s) does not trump their right to the amount and >> type of >> > privacy they desire - on their own property. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Bob... >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a >> reflection." >> > -Jean Luc Godard >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Rebekah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > >> > >> >> Just found this interesting, what do you guys think? >> >> >> >> http://www.thestate.com/local/story/190126.html >> >> >> >> rg2 >> >> -- >> >> "the subject of a photograph is far less important than its >> composition" >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Remember, it’s pillage then burn. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. > > > -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.