On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:29:12 -0800
"Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is boring and purile! Do I have to butt in and show you fellas how to 
> have an artful flame war?

It stopped being about art from the first reply!

> Regards,
> Bob...
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> From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> > On 12/19/07, Polyhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >> >I also refuse to use jpeg, png or nothing.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Wow. That's bizarre.
> >> > >
> >> > > Hardly, jpeg is lossy compression.  It grabs a square of pixels and
> >> > > averages them, you lose both dynamic range and resolution with
> >> > > jpeg.  PNG is lossless and opensource.  The other problem with jpeg
> >> > > is that because of the way it handles compression, it chokes on
> >> > > film grain.  There isn't a way to feed a jpeg encoder a image with
> >> > > allot of film grain and have it spit out a reasonable result.
> >> > > People use it because they just don't know any better.
> >> >
> >> > You're talking about displaying photographs on the internet, which is 
> >> > meant
> >> > to be a way of sharing information quickly and easily.  Image 
> >> > compression
> >> > quality takes a back seat most of the time around here, and no one else
> >> > seems to be complaining about it.
> >> >
> >> > Your elitist attitude is grating.  If you really don't care about what
> >> > others think of your photos, why bother posting them in the first 
> >> > place?
> >>
> >> I thought they may enjoy it, I was wrong, instead they looked for 
> >> something to complain about.  Typical of the bulk of people really.
> >
> > I've got more bandwidth than God when I'm at work. I work for the
> > company formerly known as UUNET. I've got straight 100MB Full-Duplex
> > connections directly to the alter.net backbone. Your site is still too
> > slow. PNG is NOT a format for rendering photographic output. If fact
> > you probably couldn't have picked a worse format (Well, GIF, but it's
> > got all the bad points of PNG with the addition of patent
> > encumbrance). JPEG is the only commonly supported graphics format
> > suited to web display of photographic images. Yes, it does have some
> > bad points, but a max quality JPEG with smaller, lower-quality
> > thumbnails will produce similar quality output (visually
> > indistinguishable for the full-size image) with far better page render
> > speeds (because your thumbnail's won't be 20x the size they need to
> > be).
> 
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