On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:55:47 -0500
"Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In 2002 Apple was shipping systems a heck of a lot faster than a
> 500MHz G3. You also had the advantage of much faster silicon for your
> north bridges as well, since you were comparing against circa-1999
> designs (Plus the fact that the B&W G3 had Apple's worst MB design,
> non-DMA Firewire and all).
> 
> And who cares if your board sold for half the price of a used G3. It
> was a board only, that Used G3 had a whole lot more hardware. Also you

It does not, good luck finding hardware that DOESN'T work on a peg. :)
Infact, we even put an x86 emulator in the firmware so that ANY agp or pci 
video card worked.

> could actually FIND a used Apple G3. I looked into the Pegasus back
> then. It effectively wasn't available. Bought a B&W G3 instead, which
> is happily still running well. Should upgrade the HDD's one of these
> days.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> On 12/22/07, Polyhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:28:13 +0000
> > Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >> I'll get a Mac. They're designed for idiots.
> > >
> > > On 22/12/07, Polyhead, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Well .. they are, in a way... but uhh... designed for idiots that buy
> > > >hype over performance.
> > >
> > > Not only do I admit to being an idiot, but I also enjoy hype over 
> > > performance.
> > >
> > > My iPhone is absolute crap.
> > >
> > > My MacBook Pro is poor with Final Cut Studio, but oddly enough I get
> > > paid to edit video, can't figure that one out.
> > >
> > > My Powerbook G3 (2000 vintage) is absolute rubbish, lasts only 9 hours
> > > on two batteries, but I can hook up with my 3G card in most places in
> > > the UK and get my email.
> > >
> > > I'm really pisspoor in not realising what insane purchasing decisions I
> > > have made.
> > >
> > > I should be flagelated with the business end of a cattle prod.
> > >
> > > Poly wanna cracker?
> >
> > In 2002 I was working with a company called genesi on their then new 
> > Pegasus board.  It was a standard MATX form PPC board with an open firmware 
> > system.  During benchmarking, we found that our 500mhz g3 machine was 30% 
> > faster than apples g3 machines, all of them, and on top of that, ours sold 
> > new for the half the price of a used g3 machine!  Apple boards are of poor 
> > design, with poor performing north bridges and a questionable dma 
> > controller.  The pci bus is high in latency, so high, you can loose 10% of 
> > your performance just by using a pci card of any sort in one.
> >
> > I'll also never forgive apple for what they did to the clones, greedy 
> > bastards.
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >   Cotty
> > >
> > >
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