On Jan 8, 2008 11:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Changing ATF is the one that gets me chuckling the most. )
I did not realize Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms needed changing. <g> Dave > Paul > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > While I agree in principle, the regular maintenance of any modern > > vehicle does actually require more than changing the oil and filter > > periodically. Unless you're unconcerned with the lifespan of the > > vehicle, which I guess might be the case with a leased vehicle. > > > > Of course, there's also the time and effort associated with proper > > disposal of the waste oil and filter, which is toxic waste and might > > also have additional expenses associated with it. > > > > BTW, while modern synthetic oils do maintain their lubricity for far > > greater than older oils and modern engines run cleaner, there are > > still lots of combustion toxins and engine part corrosivie impurities > > that the oil is infused with during normal operation, which is why > > you're changing the oil. If you want to change the oil on a very long > > service interval, you should change the filter every 5000-6000 miles > > and replenish the oil to make up for the losses incurred. > > > > The standard service on my car involves an inspection and maintenance > > of all the electrical connections, torquing chassis bolts, rotating > > the tires, inspecting the brake friction material, changing the oil > > and filter, making sure the coolant and hydraulic fluids are up to > > spec, running diagnostics for the computer, electric motors and > > battery system, and a few other details. It takes about an hour and a > > quarter, if you have the right equipment, and the $90 service charge > > includes toxic waste disposal fees. I don't have the right equipment > > to do the whole job correctly ... Since I own the car and intend to > > keep it in top condition for at 8 years, that $90 every four to six > > months/5000 miles is a good investment. > > > > Godfrey > > > > On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > > > Why? Who wants to spend thirty dollars at a dealership, when five > > > dollars and ten minutes of work can yield the same result. > > > Paul > > > On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > > > >> On a leased automobile? That would be very odd. > > >> > > >> Godfrey > > >> > > >> On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > > >> > > >>> Some of us do our own basic maintenance. When I was driving, I did > > >>> all > > >>> of my fluid changes and belt changes (Do the same for my bicycle > > >>> now). > > >>> > > >>> -Adam > > >>> > > >>> On 1/7/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> ... I've had six Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep > > >>>>> leased vehicles over the last 15 years. None has ever had to spend > > >>>>> even an hour in the dealership. ... > > >>>> > > >>>> You've never had them serviced? How odd. ]'-) > > > >>>> > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.