BTW, you can turn off high ISO noise reduction. You just can't turn off long 
exposure noise reduction, but you can set it to "auto" where it will remain off 
if excessive heat buildup isn't indicated. 

But for me the performance is what counts. And the camera performs better than 
any other Pentax offering, and, according to Adam, on a par with the Nikon D300.
Paul
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> With 8000 frames on the K20D I'm sure it's less noisy thatn the K10D at any 
> ISO 
> above 400. In fact, 1600 is comparable to about 600 on the K10. And the K10D 
> doesn't shoot 6400. It wouldn't dare:-).
> Paul
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> From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 2008/6/30 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > No, it's not the result of image processing you could apply in
> > > PhotoShop. I shoot only RAW. The RAW data is far superior. It's
> > > apparently the result of a sensor that generates less heat at high
> > > ISO than the K10D sensor.
> > 
> > I'm not too sure about this.
> > 
> > The inability to fully disable NR & some ISO 6400 shots I've taken
> > that display heat patterns, leads me believe that the sensor isn't as
> > noise free as many think.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
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