I'd just like to see the commuters of the road so those of us with
hi-performance and classic cars can get gas for the next 100 years at
least.:^)
Kent Gittings

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In a message dated 12/5/01 9:30:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> "I agree. One of the problems is that the prognosticators have kept saying
> for almost 100 years that we would run out of energy reserves within 20
> years several times. However, every time, new discoveries and new
> technologies keep pushing back the date at which we will run out of
> nonrenewable resources."

Yeah, but now the "discoveries" are 13,000 under an open sea


> organically grown food source,
> even with farm and land management we'd have to fist kill 2/3rds of the
> world's people just to feed the remainder."


You say that as if it's a bad thing. (JUST KIDDING!)
But what do you propose to do, apply western technology to deserts, or other
lands too poor to farm scuessfully? The problem isn't food, it's water..
And then the ~other~ problem rears its ugly head: spotty prodcution and lack
of transportation. That is compounded by the need to provide medical care
and
later, eduations.


But technology has enabled us to at least make it in ever increasing
quantities

> per acre so we have enough to feed everyone, even if for a significant
> percentage of the earth's population it never gets to them.
> I'd worry more about the destruction of the planet's major source of
oxygen,
> the rain forests of the world, before I'd worry about other factors.
> Kent Gittings
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
>
>
> I agree that NASA does research, but what portion of their
> government-controlled budget is devoted to solar?  Now a days it seems
like
> most spacecraft are made with off-the-shelf parts to keep costs down
instead
> of there being a lot of R&D.
>
> The "quick return" is the "attitude" I was alluding to.  It's a short
versus
> long term view.  Let's make money quick, even if it wrecks the planet.
> Lawmakers will decide not to invest in alternative energy as long as they
> are stockholders and board members of oil companies and auto
manufacturers.
> As far as efficiency, I suspect it could be vastly improved by
technologies
> and methods not yet envisioned and definitely not budgeted for.
>
> Sierra, well they're Sierra.  A respectable organization, no doubt, but
> maybe fanatical in some cases.
>
> Tom C.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Gittings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:27 AM
> Subject: RE: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
>
>
> > Actually the reason is business. Without a guaranteed quick return only
> the
> > solar energy companies like Solarex can make a profit off the stuff. And
> > don't think that pouring more R & D dollars will get the efficiency much
> > over the low percentage conversions now available. NASA pays for
extensive
> > research and engineering projects in that area as space is still the
> number
> > one priority for it.
> > Not to mention the Sierra Club would most likely sue to keep all the
solar
> > panels from covering all the acreage you would need to make it work.
> Fusion
> > would be a better solution so instead of trying to harness a small
> > percentage of the sun's fusion it would be better just to do it here.
> Would
> > save the large areas we'd have to chop down to cover with solar panels.
> > My vote is to get all the commuters off the road into some kind of mass
> > transit so those of us who enjoy high performance driving can have the
> roads
> > all to ourselves.
> > Kent Gittings
>
Mafud
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