There are a lot of factors that have changed since the fifties. Film and
paper of course as you have mentioned. Optics, lenses are very much crisper
now. Lighting, in the fifties it was mostly hot lights and flash bulbs
though a few were using big strobes which even so give a far different look
to a shot than the small auto-strobes we use today. Printing was done
differently, used smaller apertures longer exposures. The chemicals were in
many cases different, even when they had the same brand name as the modern
ones. Developing temperatures were lower 68 degrees was the standard. And
beyond those everything was done by hand, so the precision was not the same,
developing 35mm was a tense thing, larger formats far less so.

BTW, as far as I know Super XX was never available in 35mm so that look does
not match the techniques of the day. If you are shooting medium format you
might try Kodak Verichrome Pan. I believe it is still available in 120, or
at least was a very few years ago, and  still has the same kind of spectral
sensitivity that it did back then, though I imagine the grain is finer.

Ciao,
graywolf



----- Original Message -----
From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: Mid 20th century look (was Re[2]: 50mm/f1.2


> Hi ... I appreciate your offer to help, but I can't really explain
> exactly what I'm looking for.  There's no particular photographer or
> style that I have in mind.  It's just something I'm going to have to
> work out myself.
>
> However, if you know of any films that will give results like XX, or
> papers that are similar to the fiber-based paper used by Eugene Smith,
> I'd like to know about them.  As I told Bob, I've been playing around
> with Bergger 200 and Fortepan, some variations with Tri-X, and have just
> started looking for an appropriate, graded, fiber-based paper.
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