Bullshit. > > The act of taking the photograph is an act of manipulation and is > therefore always "dishonest" > > YOU CHOOSE what to include in every photograph you take and what to > exclude. YOU CHOOSE the angle it is shot from. YOU CHOOSE > the subject > matter, etc etc etc. > > All these CHOICES are "manipulating" the photograph and telling the > story that YOU want to tell. > > Whether you do it by composition, in photoshop, or in the darkroom, > EVERY photograph is "dishonest." > > > -- > > Christian > http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ > > Nick Wright wrote: > > Yes, it is. But somewhere along the line I came to view one as > > "honest" and the other as "dishonest." > > > > Not that it's that simple though. Because I think that a "straight" > > photo can be dishonest as well. > > > > Which is something that I've also been thinking about in > regards to my > > original photo. I like my shot quite a bit, but I cycled past that > > church again the other day and I realized that it is not an honest > > photo. > > > > The reason I believe that is because in the photo the tower > appears to > > be much taller than the rest of the building, when in > reality the roof > > line to the right of the tower in the photo is higher. > > > > I didn't think about it when I shot it, and then I didn't > think about > > it when I got the negs back. > > > > So what do you all think about that? > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Bruce Dayton > <bkday...@daytonphoto.com> wrote: > >> Isn't just changing the lens or the angle that you take the shot, > >> changing the perspective? It would seem that if altering the photo > >> after the shot bothers you, then altering the photo before the shot > >> should to. Just different methods of accomplishing the same basic > >> thing. > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 5:06:20 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> NW> Thanks to all the folks who took time to comment on > this last PESO of > >> NW> mine. I do appreciate the critiques. > >> > >> NW> One item I'd like to touch on is the concept of > software perspective > >> NW> control. I'd been thinking about this recently before > I'd posted my > >> NW> PESO and then Brian brought it up in his critique of my image. > >> > >> NW> I'm just amazed at how fast technology changes. The > last time I was an > >> NW> active member of this list (granted that was 8 years > ago) the only way > >> NW> to achieve perspective control was with a view camera > or shift lens. > >> NW> Now you can get something of the same effect using photoshop. > >> > >> NW> I don't currently have any software with the ability > to "correct" > >> NW> perspective, but an older laptop of mine had Elements > 2 which did. I > >> NW> played around with it a bit but never could really get > my heart into > >> NW> it. > >> > >> NW> I think it mainly has to do with all those years at > the newspaper. Any > >> NW> alteration of a photograph like that just makes me cringe. > >> > >> NW> I'm curious to hear more of you all's opinions on the process? > >> > >> NW> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Brian Walters > <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > >>>> Nice composition but the tower gets a bit lost in the > background sky. > >>>> > >>>> Also, I'd try a bit of perspective correction to make > the verticals > >>>> vertical and the horizontals, er...horizontal. It may not be an > >>>> improvement but worth investigating. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> > >>>> Brian > >>>> > >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>> Brian Walters > >>>> Western Sydney Australia > >>>> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:52 -0500, "Nick Wright" > >>>> <nickwright1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> Here's another PESO: > >>>>> http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/church-tower-2/ > >>>>> > >>>>> Comment welcome and appreciated. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> ~Nick David Wright > >>>>> http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>> PDML@pdml.net > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. > >
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