On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Graydon <o...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:07:59AM +0100, AlunFoto scripsit:
>> Graydon,
>> I wrote about _trust_, not truth. Trust is the thing that builds a
>> bridge of consensus between our individual perceptions of reality,
>> isn't it? :-)
>
> I wouldn't say so, no.  I'd say that's either facts (arrived at in
> falsifiable, public ways) or a presumption of the absence of malice.
>
> Facts about perception exist, but aren't particularly useful in a
> context of art.
>
> Advertising *never* comes with a presumption of the absence of malice,
> at least from my corner, but this has layers.
>
> Advertising is about creating or strengthening an insecurity and then
> offering (or implying) a solution.  That's a willingness to mess with my
> head and/or cashflow, but it's not the same as "do this or we club you
> with sticks" malice.  The "creating insecurity" part also varies widely;
> the folks advertising pay-day loans (and blatantly lying about low
> rates) are different from the Pentax ad that implies $EXPENSIVE_LENS
> will improve your photography, at least in as much as the folks
> responsible for the Pentax ad can presume you already know that
> $EXPENSIVE_LENS cannot improve your photography.
>
> Art is an attempt to produce a pattern of emotional reaction in the
> viewer (for photography, anyway, viewer); this more or less requires
> that you set out to mess with someone's head in creating art.  You
> might, as a specific individual artist, build up some trust over time
> about how you're going to do that, but it's very easy to lose.  (Pick
> any popular art -- book, tv, movie, music... -- and find the wailing
> when the artist(s) do something different, or different than expected...)
>
> So I'd say you can, maybe, trust an individual to be pursuing their
> artistic vision, but you can't sensibly trust that you know what that is
> (since they might not, and it will change with time) or that it's
> necessarily good for you.  (There are, after all, all those folks out
> there on the net apparently sincerely pursuing an artistic vision of
> wanting to make people spork their eyeballs out.)
>
> So I think "how do I react to this?" is a much more useful question than
> "do I trust this artist? what were they trying to do?"

Holy shit, guys, I'm just taking fuckin' pictures, you know?

cheers,
frank



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