In a message dated 3/18/2009 10:03:26 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
war...@gmail.com writes:
They should be used in  training situations only after being taught the 
proper way to use them, and  should never be used as a regular walking 
collar.
A prong collar is more  humane than those little monstrosities of canine 
abuse.

William  Robb


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I've wondered about that.

Marnie aka Doe  

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