Hi Tom,
Your assertion is correct. Bigger files make better prints. But just for the
sake of clarification, I don't "downsample" my high res images. I scan 35mm
transparencies at 4000 ppi, then print them on my Epson 1200 o about a 10 x7
format. Resizing without resampling gives me a file of about 575 ppi. I print
that on the Epson at 1440 d[o/  Sometimes, I'll print n 11x16 with about 350
dpi resolution. But again there is no resampling. It''s just the same 4000 ppi
scan blown up to 11x16. I'm currently fooling around with scans from 6 x 7
negs. I've found  that a 4000 dpi scan is almost four times as big a file as a
35mm scan (around 250 megabytes). I'm going to make some 11x16 prints from one
of these later this week. That big a scan should size out to more than 600 ppi
at 11x16.
Paul Stenquist

Tom Rittenhouse wrote:

> If your printer is not on this list, or you think you can do better, please
> send me a print so I can add it to the ratings (address at end of post).
>
> Even prints from your older printer are useful.. I, for one, would like to
> know if better quality is possible from my existing printer than I am
> getting. I would bet that others of you would like to know that also.
>
> Please use the word "challenge" in your posts on this subject so it will be
> sorted into the appropriate folder where I won't miss it.
>
> Maybe we can come up with prizes for 2002 (our friendly Pentax Rep has
> indicated and interest in seeing this challenge continue), maybe not; but
> many of you have indicated that you think these ratings are useful. Without
> your participation there can be no ratings. If we do have prizes same rules
> will apply: has to be your original photo, and has to be printed by you to
> be considered for a prize. All prints received will be used in rating
> printers. Please do not send photo prints, because I don't want to have to
> return them.
>
> PRINTER RATINGS: (only the highest rating for a given printer is listed,
> based on the assumption that you want to know what the hardware is capable
> of ) :
>
> Canon BJC-620.    C-  (A poor thing, but my own)
> Canon S800    F
> Epson Photo    D
> Epson Photo EX    E+
> Epson Photo 1270    F
> Epson Photo 1200    F
> Epson C-80    E
> Xerox Tectonics Phaser 850    E
> HP 722C    E
> Fuji Frontiera. (A ringer submitted by Pentax Rep. Not rated)
>
> Some observations:
>
> It should be noted that as far as I know, the Epson 800, 870, 890 all use
> the same technology as the 1200 series so should have similar performance.
>
> >From looking at the prints I have been sent, I can say that high-res
> down-sampled images make better prints than lower res images not re-sampled.
>
> Six color printers are far and away better photo printers than 4 color
> printers.
>
> Paper makes a very significant difference in the final appearance of the
> print.
>
> Meaning of ratings:
> A. Awful (Why did they bother to send this.)
> B. Better. (Comparable to a newspaper color photo. Common digital printer
> faults like banding clearly visible)
> C. Cool (A very nice print, but not photographic in appearance. Some banding
> visible. Comparable to a magazine photo.)
> D. Delightful (Nearly photographic quality. Visible halftoning. Slight
> banding Comparable to a glossy magazine photo.)
> E. Excellent (Equal to a mini-lab print. No visible banding. No
> halftoning visible to the naked eye.)
> F. Fantastic (Equal to a excellent machine print. No halftoning
> visible with a 4x loupe.)
> G. Gorgeous (Equal to a custom print)
> H. Heartwarming. (Equal to a Salon Print)
> I. Ilfordchrome. (Equal to a custom cibachrome print).
>
> In the interest of accuracy, based upon being shown some custom cibachromes
> by a fine art photographer, I have modified the descriptions for the ratings
> of F and above. The submitter's have shown me I set my sights too low to
> start.
>
> Ciao,
> graywolf
>
> Ciao,
> graywolf
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> PDML Challenge
> c/o Tom Rittenhouse
> 4018 Hiddenbrook Dr.
> Charlotte, NC 28205
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