What were Nikon and Canon using? -----Original Message----- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:20 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
There wasn't a "safe" DX sensor at the time Pentax started work on the MZ-D. The Sony DX 6MP CCD sensor that would become the basis for so many Pentax and Nikon DSLR's along with both the Konica Minolta DSLR's wasn't available until 2002. Frankly Pentax wasn't late to the party, excepting Contax's ill-fated N Digital, Pentax was the first of the smaller makers to announce a DSLR and pretty much tied with Olympus in being the first to ship. -Adam On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Desjardins, Steve <desjard...@wlu.edu> wrote: > Remember the Pentax MZ-D? Pentax was behind N and C but they also had far > less money. If they had chosen to use a "safe" DX format chip in the MZ-D > (instead of the ill-fated Phillips FF chip) they would have produced a more > timely product. Would it have sold at $4-6K is another question. Probably > why they are still gun shy about FF. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike > wilson > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:14 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera > industry > > > ---- Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Mike, >> I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up >> doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution. That's kind >> of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass, they >> could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak had >> the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and they >> were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more in this >> revolution than a simple camera maker. >> Regards, Bob S. > > That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying. Hasselblad was a > _leader_ in the revolution until the company owners/management, for reasons > that seem at first glance to be incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the > research and development and spent the money on something else. Probably > themselves. > >> >> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM, mike wilson <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> >> wrote: >> > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> > >> >> Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know >> >> how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major >> >> dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a >> >> $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became >> >> an anachronism. So too with film cameras... Regards, Bob S. >> > >> > The article says that the above scenario was not the case. Engineers were >> > working on digital solutions (did I write that out loud?) in the early 90s. >> > There was a takeover, the research was scrapped and the considerable >> > financial resources disappeared. Amoral bandits. >> > >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, mike wilson <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Keith Whaley wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Derby Chang wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> A really fascinating essay on LL today. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more >> >>>> about the turning point between film and digital use. >> >>>> >> >>>> I thought I had a reasonable understanding of it, until I read this >> >>>> article! >> >>>> Well written and (until something better comes along) pretty much a >> >>>> short >> >>>> but seminal revelation on how it all came about. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, Derby... >> >>>> >> >>>> keith whaley >> >>> >> >>> I saw it as more a description of the gross mismanagement, followed by >> >>> the >> >>> financial rape and eventual (at least partial/temporary) salvation of a >> >>> world class camera company. 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