All true. Daimler didn't want the top of the line Chryslers to be too
close to Mercedes in content. And they imposed the rear-drive
platforms on Chrysler engineering, despite the fact that the existing
Chrysler FWD platforms were very good. The changeover was very costly.
Paul
On Jun 3, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
Daimler also seriously decontented the Chrysler cars interiors and was
repsonsible for absolutely gutting the smaller FWD platforms. Sit in a
300M and a pre-2008 300C sometime. The interior of the 300M is
significantly better than even the current 300C let alone the
atrocious interiors in the pre-2008 models (the 300M and other 2nd
generation LH cars were the last pre-Daimler Chysler designs). The
real pity of the death of cab forward is that in most regards other
than drivetrain the cab forward designs are flat out better cars than
their successors. Even the LX cars (300, Charger, Magnum and
Challenger), which are very nice cars for the ost part are in most
ways inferior to the LH's which proceeded them. Especially when it
comes to view.
Chrysler should have gone to a 3rd generation LH platform as a upper
midsize choice rather than the atrocious clunker that is the current
Sebring/Avenger. And the less that is said about the Caliber the
better.
-Adam
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Brendan MacRae
<brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Daimler did away with the "cab-forward" design philosophy and
predominance of front-wheel-drive that was prevalent at Chrysler
and started the trend for rear wheel driven cars. Hence the 300
series, the Magnum, and the Charger. They also contributed to the
Chrysler Crossfire design, which I understand was basically a
domestic platform for the Mercedes CLK drivetrain.
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The Challenger project only got rolling after Daimler was gone. The
300 benefited somewhat from the Daimler connection, but for the most
part, Daimler drained Chrysler resources without contributing a
whole
hell of a lot. I was there; saw it happen.
Paul
On Jun 3, 2009, at 9:39 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
Well, the 300 and the retro Challenger were done with Daimler, both
Of which the best things they did in many years.
J.C. O'Connell ( mailto:hifis...@gate.net )
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Chrysler did just fine until Daimler got involved. Dodge was one of
the world's most profitable brands in the nineties, as was Jeep.
And,
yes, with a dealership organization, we probably will get Alfas
but not from Chrysler. We'll get Dodges, Chrysler, and Jeeps from
Chrysler. There will probably be a compact Dodge and Chrysler
shared
with Fiat, but the brands won't be mixed. That wouldn't make any
sense.
Very clever of you Godders to be able to make fun of the Chrysler
name. You're such a wit.
Paul
On Jun 3, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jun 3, 2009, at 5:10 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
John Mullan wrote:
It is really a prototype for the first Chrysler now that the
majority is
owned by FIAT. See this link for a road test.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36674...@n07/3593664412/
Very funny. A beautiful graphics job too.
But what I do think we *might* get, after the dunderheads at
CRAPysler are canned and out of the way, might be more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i10Xv2_XLQ
One can only hope.
G
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