On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

The New Beetle is a Golf.

A putt-putt Golf.
Paul


-Adam

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:05 AM, P. J. Alling<webstertwenty...@gmail.com > wrote:
Well, the "New" Beetle isn't even close to the same car as the original. Not even the same concept, the original Beetle was easy to repair with minimal tools for one thing. The "New" Beetle was meant to capitalize on nostalgia without invoking any of the grittiness of the actual past...


Joseph McAllister wrote:

Porsche has retained the rear or mid- engine design with the exception of the 928, and a few of the newer vehicles which were rebadged VW/ Porsche designs. Once the Rabbit came out, VW has remained front engined ever
since.


On Jul 7, 2009, at 19:00 , Adam Maas wrote:

True, I don't think you can really call anything after the 993 related to the Beetle by anything other than styling cues. Prior to that, the
relationship was clear although the evolution was significant.

-Adam

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:54 PM, paul stenquist<pnstenqu...@comcast.net >
wrote:

Of course the relationship between the early 911s and the Beetle isn't
quite
as simple as Adam suggested, but the 911 was certainly a derivative of
that
car. Of course, later 911s evolved into something far different.
Paul
On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Adam Maas wrote:

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J.
Alling<webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Adam Maas wrote:

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb<war...@gmail.com>
wrote:


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf R. Radermacher"
Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand






Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no
more
than a pimped-up K20D,


If you are talking about the K-7, be assured that it is as much a
pimped
up
a K20 as a Porsche is a pimped up Beetle.

William Robb



But a 911 IS a pimped up Beetle ;-)

-Adam


The 356 was a pimped up Beetle, the 911 was something else
entirely...


The 356 was a reskinned Beetle with a couple tweaks and a diet. The
911 was a chopped and pimped beetle. There's a reason you can
transplant older 911 drivetrains pretty much directly into a Beetle.

I've done that, it's not as easy as you think.

(I've also bolted a 356 engine into a Beetle, after helping rebuild it,
I
know of what I speak).

Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

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