From: "Malcolm Smith"
Hi Doug,

> > About five years ago, a development of six of these were put up
> twenty mins
> > walk from me in a gated development off a main road.
> > Is there a chance that knowing the location more precisely, I could
> find
> out more about them?  If they're private homes, probably not, unless
> the
> development was some sort of news at the time.  I'd be interested to
> learn more about them.

I've looked for links to them or sales but they have been removed. They were
built in about 2005 for ?950,000 each and one went up for ?985,000 in 2008.
I'm sure more than one has changed hands. It is possible to get a glimpse on
them on Google maps (I can't get a direct link to work). If you put in
Sewardstone Road, London E4, as you zoom in to the road, it is between Mott
Street & Avey Lane. You will see a Premier Lodge and it is immediately to
the north of it. To add to the joys of the location, this site was developed
in 2006 and one of the buildings and the car park is against their boundary
wall!

Right click on a location on the map and select "What's Here" and google will give you Longitude & Latitude. You can use the numbers Google Maps gives you as a link.

If you're talking about what I think you're talking about try plugging 51.669177,0.003191 into Google Maps as your search term and it will give you a green arrow right in the middle of their driveway.

Seems to be called "The Grange". Street view doesn't give you much since Google's street view vehicles won't go into the private drive, but you can tell from moving along Sewardstone Road that it's a gated community & they have an earth berm separating them from the Premier Lodge (AKA Premier Inn Waltham Abbey). Plus they're all single story units.

One problem I had at first is the map link for the Premier Inn is mis-located. The link icon is located in their driveway.

Again, using street view from Sewardstone Road, you find that the Premier Inn is the larger building just south of where the map link is located.

Then the "immediately to the north of it" makes sense.

> > I've always understood
> > the panoramic views that can be had by locating one in a good open
> spot in a
> > bit of land, but six sited very closely together with communal
> parking,
> > struck me as rather odd, if for no other reason than privacy issues.
> > I'm completely on board. Due to a childhood trauma, I have a "thing"
> about ground floor windows.  But I could see putting the full glass
> treatment to the first level above ground, and any levels above that.
> For example, I've always wanted a house on high ground overlooking the
> ocean with a "turret" on top that's glass all around.

I should think the view from the lower ground windows, consists of wall,
gate and other properties. I'm with you on the views from higher levels.

> > Although the view behind is great, the bulk of the view is dominated
> by a
> > motorway and one of the largest supermarket distribution centres in
> > south-east England; this did not stop one being marketed and sold
> after a
> > few months with an asking price of ?985,000. I'm not sure if the
> location,
> > proximity of other similar properties or the asking price shocks me
> most.
> > Maybe I'm being picky, but I'm bloody well not going to spend a million
> pounds for a view of a motorway and a flippin' warehouse.

Maybe it's worth it for the short stay motel right next door? Then again....

Looks like the view to the north & east would be mostly open field with the commercial greenhouses along Avery Rd. To the west & northwest is pasture (?) and then that very odd looking park-like area with all the mounds and curiously shaped tree planters. [GUNPOWDER - A New Country Park, by the sign ... you can sometimes read the signs in street view]

And beyond that is the housing development that looks like nothing more than a miniature version of "Little Winging" from the Harry Potter movies before you ever get to the warehouse and the motorway. I doubt they can even see the warehouse from their location.

Probably the views aren't all that worse than many suburban landscapes.

Plus, I think there's only three houses there. They look like the first two have an attached (or semi-attached) garage providing a visual divider between the units.

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