Rick,

I'll happily let you know. Since you've spent more time looking into
it, what are the worst parameters regarding magenta concrete?

Cheers
Ecke

2010/7/1 Rick Womer <rwomer1...@yahoo.com>:
> Ecke,
>
> I will be very interested to know if the new filter eliminates the magenta 
> concrete.  That and VPN in dark skies are the two biggest problems with 
> nocturnal photography with my K10D.
>
> Rick
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/1/10, eckinator <eckina...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> hi gang
>>
>> maybe this is old news to most of you but I thought I'd
>> post it anyway
>> in case it isn't
>>
>> got my recent aby steal, a B+W UV/IR-CUT filter in the mail
>> today and
>> replaced the Hoya Pro1 Digital MRC UV filter used so far
>> which despite
>> frequent old school cleaning - give it a good moist breath
>> and wipe it
>> with a piece of microfibre cloth - had lots of spots and
>> fingerprint
>> residue etc on it. I remember reading somewhere Hoyas have
>> a bad rep
>> for being hard to clean and so I broke out the lens
>> cleaning liquid
>> and a bunch of other stuff and the result was invariably a
>> colorful
>> smeary mess looking something like a wet oil stain in the
>> street if
>> you know what I mean. Tried helmet visor cleaning tissue
>> next,
>> eyeglass cleaning tissue, Olympus silicone impregnated lens
>> cleaning
>> parchment and everything I could think of. Same mess every
>> time.
>>
>> So I quit and googled "cleaning Hoya filters" thinking,
>> "heck I'll ask
>> PDML if I can't find anything".
>>
>> Sure enough the first result was
>> http://www.hoyafilter.com/products/hoya/coatings.html
>> where it says
>> "Never use any chemicals, such as lens cleaning fluid, on
>> your
>> filters, as these can damage the coatings. If any stubborn
>> stains
>> occur, these can usually be washed off with some clean
>> water and a
>> soft cotton cloth."
>> Big OUCH, I had used all apparently suitable chemicals at
>> my
>> disposal... so I let it soak in water for a while, found a
>> clean
>> cotton kitchen towel and gently rubbed. Some came off, some
>> didn't so
>> I rubbed harder, figuring the filter was probably ruined
>> anyway. But
>> guess what, every single stain came off, there is no lint
>> on the
>> filter, no scratches, no cleaning marks no matter which way
>> or side I
>> hold it into the light, under a light or shine one across
>> it. It looks
>> absolutely like new. I can't find a single fault.
>>
>> BTW I bought the B+W to test the claim that the K10D's AA
>> filter's IR
>> suppression is weak and that the filter will prevent color
>> casts
>> ("magenta concrete") in darker image areas. There won't be
>> a newer
>> Pentax for me in the near future so I have to squeeze the
>> best out of
>> what I have. If there is anything to report, I will pass it
>> on, if you
>> don't hear from me about this again I wasted a couple of
>> Euros.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ecke
>>
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