I'm not excusing the offense. I'm just saying that people being
people are more likely to do bad things with words, especially on a
keyboard. My point is, to use the old phrase, hate the sin not the
sinner.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Y'all may be right on that, but hate speech of that type directed publicly at
> a single named individual is, IMO, a greater offense that hate speech that
> applies to nameless groups of individuals. It's moot here since Godfrey
> doesn't seem at all ruffled or intimidated by it. Some individuals would not
> be so [hmmmm] understanding.
>
> Jeffery
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>
>> Using "hate crime" for this diminishes the use of the phrase when it
>> is actually warranted. We're talking about a snarky remark expressing
>> dislike (uncivil but in bounds) expressed in an unacceptable way.
>> Just to note, there has been an expected response. Folks used their
>> own "freedom of speech" to express their displeasure. Bill was not
>> banned from the list but left of his own accord in the face of
>> criticism. That is simply how groups of people work. I personally
>> hope Bill will cool off a bit and come back. People make mistakes and
>> you can't shoot them every time their all too common ugly side
>> emerges.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:21 PM, P. J. Alling
>> <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Political correctness has officially run amuck here. Hate crime?
>>> Pulllease.... Someone's sensibilities being bruised is not a hate crime.
>>> Bill Robb, made a truthful statement in as offensive a manor as he could.
>>> So what. I've put both Godfrey and Bill on my kill list at different times
>>> for different reasons. Both can be total SOBs. Writing something I
>>> personally find, stupid, arrogant, obnoxious, self destructive, insulting,
>>> you name it isn't a crime. Save calling things crimes that actually are.
>>>
>>> On 10/24/2010 3:36 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Boorish is putting it mildly. It DOES fall under hate crime (which
>>>> includes insults and verbal abuse). I think hate crime is a clear line that
>>>> we don't traverse on this list. Pompous gas bag is not a hate crime. Faggot
>>>> is. I would prefer the way William F. Buckley introduced Norman Mailer
>>>> ("unalloyed narcissism"). Mailer even found it charming.
>>>>
>>>> Jeffery
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 24, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Shunning someone for boorish behavior isn't trampling on their rights.
>>>>> It's merely depriving them of a platform from which to engage in that
>>>>> boorish behavior ... a platform to which no one person is entitled.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Walt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> why? isn't pompous twittery also an inherent trait? If you limit other
>>>>>> people's right to say things you don't like, someone else will limit
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> right to say things they don't like. We all know where that leads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondly, why do you limit it to inherent properties, whatever that
>>>>>> means?
>>>>>> What if being gay turns out not to be an inherent property? Does that
>>>>>> suddenly make it ok to insult gay people? I don't think so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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