On Jun 4, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Thibouille wrote:

> IPS doesn't mean good. IPS does mean 'not crap'. A tad different IMO.
> Colour restitution capabilities and uniformity are not there just
> because those are IPS panels.

But the new iMac IPS monitors are quite good by all accounts. I've been very 
satisfied with the performance of the iMac 27 monitor.
Paul

> 
> 2011/6/4 Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com>:
>> Some are. The larger iMac screens, eg 24" and up, are IPS displays which
>> don't exhibit the banding. The older iMacs and all the Mac notebooks have TN
>> displays which do show banding. That's why I have a secondary IPS LCD
>> monitor on my iMac that I do all my image editing on.
>> 
>> -bmw
>> 
>> On 11-06-04 5:17 AM, Thibouille wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mmm not sure it is the graphics card.
>>> It is most probably the screen. And no, Mac screens are no better than
>>> PC screens :(
>>> 
>>> 2011/6/3 Tim Bray<tb...@textuality.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hah, the plot thickens.  I can see the banding perfectly clearly on my
>>>> everyday MacBook Pro.  But on our big high-quality NEC monitor, I
>>>> can't.  But even on the big monitor, I can see the bands in that .png
>>>> file.
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting because this is the first time there's actually been an
>>>> observable effect of the fairly limited graphics card in the laptop.
>>>> Thanks everyone for making me take a second look.  -T
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Bob Sullivan<rf.sulli...@gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim,
>>>>> I don't see the banding either.
>>>>> When I've had this kind of problem,
>>>>> the banding was caused by display resolution.
>>>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinson<charl...@visi.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:47, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Check out
>>>>>>>> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines
>>>>>>>> that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them "bars", as
>>>>>>>> the green brightness drops off.  They ain't there in the .dng, and
>>>>>>>> after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still
>>>>>>>> obvious.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in
>>>>>>>> which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using
>>>>>>>> built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview.  Obvious bars!
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought
>>>>>>>> .png was uncompressed!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created.
>>>>>>>> But I don't know how.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's not too bad here.  I wonder if you're pulling an Ann and have
>>>>>>> something set to too few bits.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm having the same issue - I cannot see the isobars/lines/whatever at
>>>>>> all.  Silky-smooth on my screen (Chrome browser on a Macbook)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  -Charles
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Minneapolis, MN
>>>>>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson
>>>>>> 
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