Update; Looks like the K5 and the DA*16-50. I let him borrow the K7 so he could try out the "economy" version.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote: > > On Jul 29, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> I checked the Nikon D7000, D700, and Canon 7D. The D700 seems better >> but is over $2000. The other two have no real advantage over the K5 >> and the K can actually get to higher iso. Lenswise, the comparable N >> and C offerings in the 12-36 range are much more expensive. It does >> appear that the K5 is genuinely competitive and maybe even the best in >> this group for low light. > > You could make an argument for a K-r rather than a K-5 to have a bit more > money left over for good glass, but I'd still suggest going with the K-5, > it's just that much better in so many ways. > > I've done side-by-sides with the D700 and the D7000. At 3200 the D700 is a > little better in brighter light, but the K-5 is better in dim light. I spent > a bit of time playing with a friend's D7000 with a 50/1.4 (or 1.8 ?) on it, > and I was able to get much better quality in low light with the K-5. Someone > proficient with the D7000 could probably come a bit closer, but I really > think that the K-5 is still going to edge out the D7000, especially hand held > at anything faster than f/2.8. > > Can you find out what focal length(s) he needs? Maybe do some test shots > with your gear? Despite my gripes with it, the Sigma 20/1.8 is a pretty good > lens for the money, half the cost of the 16-50 and over twice as fast. It > has its rough bits, but can also be an awesome macro lens. > > The K-5 + 16-50 is an excellent combination. Sharp enough and fast enough > for most reasonable conditions. More versatile and less expensive than the > basket of primes it would take to replace the 16-50, even if it would be > slower than primes. > >> >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> It's a very nice lens. I sometimes use it for auto interiors, and I've used >>> it for room interiors as well. My landscape for the September PUG was shot >>> with it. I believe that Robb said it was as sharp as the 14/2.8. I've read >>> more than once that it's sharper than the A or K 15/3.5. It's certainly >>> not a dog and more than adequate for this type of shot. >>> Paul >>> >>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >>> >>>> I was thinking about the the 12-24 but I haven't heard much about it. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Then I would go with the DA 12-24/4, which sells for around $700 He's not >>>>> going to want to shoot wide open anyway. because he'll need a bit more >>>>> depth of field, and I'm a little concerned about the angle of view at >>>>> 16mm. He won't be able to step back very far from the sideline, since >>>>> there will be other people there. >>>>> >>>>> I'm surprised at how expensive the 16-50 is now. I believe it used to be >>>>> about half that price. >>>>> Paul >>>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The K5 is obvious for $1327. The DA* 16-50 is less obvious for $1500. >>>>>> The K5 leaves me about 650-700 for a lens. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Steven Desjardins <drd1...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Amen to that. I was actual using a random school laptop while my own >>>>>>> computer was being refit with a new flash drive. i..e, the &*^$@$ hard >>>>>>> drive crashed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Ann Sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/29/2011 11:21, Steven Desjardins wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This will be a fun exercise. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a firend who wants a camera to take pituctrues of a marching >>>>>>>>> band at night from the field. So we need high iso, espceially sicne >>>>>>>>> the Tv needs ot be reasoanble. Further, he needs to get about >>>>>>>>> 60-80yards in the picutre from the sidelines. He can spend up to >>>>>>>>> $2000 and needs a body and lens(es). 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