On 11/26/2011 4:46 PM, steve harley wrote:
on 2011-11-25 17:13 William Robb wrote
It is telling that the Canadian protests seem to have been put to bed
without
the overarching police brutality that has been so common south of the
border.
It seems that to a great extent, our cops still know the difference
between
right and wrong (and that perhaps they learned something from the way
they
behaved at the G20).
i think it's a little more complicated than that; yes, there are some
provocateurs in the US occupations; hard to avoid when there is no
real hierarchy ... but the police (federally supplied and trained on
anti-terrorism tactics they have been itching to use) seem to have
been touched by an escalative effect from how the authorities are
coordinating their repression, compounded perhaps by the fear and lack
of savvy of many of the local politicians who ultimately decide how to
react to each occupation; here in Denver, both the moderate mayor and
moderate governor have directed the crackdown, and both are terribly
afraid of the center drifting right in next election
I think it's a bit too late for that worry, it's already happened.
in any case the physical "occupation" part of OWS is only tactical,
and the attention must be transformed now if they are to extend the
awareness the public is gaining about the underlying issues; it also
remains to be seen how well corpse money can "fix" it
I doubt these people could raise awareness in anyone else as they seem
to totally unaware to begin with. That's not a political statement just
of fact. The politicians who had hoped to ride this particular tiger,
are finding out that it's more like a flock of birds, in the shape of a
tiger, there's nothing to ride.
No matter what you might think of the Tea Party, the participants had
two actual aims, lower taxes and, less government. What occupy wall
street seems to be for is attacking those who seem to be fat cats, but
they seem to be unable to identify who Wall Street is. The fat cats
they've actually protested, until they actually began protesting in
front of Bloomberg's home in New York, had little of nothing to do with
stocks or banking, and they protested Bloomberg because he was the
Mayor. The most cogent demand I've seen so far is forgiveness of
student loans. Hardly a populist stance.
i was struck by this article, even if some of the conclusions are hard
to swallow:
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-about-crackdown-occupy>
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Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a
lengthily search.
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