I don't know that any particular method is objectively better for everyone. Each person needs to do what works in their own situtation. When several people need to share a common structure, things become more difficult.
gs George Sinos -------------------- gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 2:20 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne <p...@alunfoto.no> wrote: > We both know that any software may reach its expiry date before we expect it > to. > > If you don't do so already, you should definately look into how to make LR > write your keywords into the file system as well as in the database, so that > you get the redundancy you argue for. Most other archiving software on the > market are already capable of reading those data, so when switching you can > actually transfer nearly all the metadata from LR without even consulting its > database. > > The thing I don't like about your folder logic is how you put descriptors > like "family" and placemames first, and dates at the end. The way I see it > you will inevitably end up in the fix that Bob W. raised for hierarchical > keywords, but without any intrinsic context awareness to lean on. By sticking > to dates as the single organising structure, you avoid such ambiguities. And > with keywords stored inside the files or in XMP sidecars, even the indexer in > Windows can search through your files if you abandon LR. :-) > > But at the end of the day the folder structure is just a sorting system, so > it is to be expected that we differ in preferences. :-) > > Jostein > > > Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Two points, Jostein: >> >>1. I'd like to be able to backup my photos to separate external HDDs >>and >>I'd like to backup logical units. To that end, Family Album and/or >>International Travel are both good candidates. >> >>2. I don't want to bet my life on LR or Adobe. Thus minimal basic >>hierarchy is in folder structure. Call that a skeleton if you will. >> >>Boris >> >>On 10/21/2012 11:12 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: >>> In my humble opinion it is not a good idea in the long run to use >>> descriptive terms like "family album" in folder names. That's what >>> keywords are for in the first place. I think it better to use the >>> folder names to establish chronology only. Hierarchical keywords is a >>> blessing. :-) Jostein >>> >>> Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Chiming in with a bit (*) of delay... >>>> >>>> I see there were a storage strategy discussion here. I should point >>>> out >>>> >>>> the obvious - there is no reason of not using very helpful features >>>> of LR such as keywords and there is no sense in overdoing it >>>> either. Namely, if you try to come up with all possible keywords >>>> for each photo, chances are you won't be consistent from day to day >>>> or from month to month and hence the outcome will be a mess. >>>> >>>> Here is a suggestion for you. >>>> >>>> I have two hierarchies. One is on disk file system like so: >>>> >>>> \<basic category>\<sub category>\<date-time based sub-structure>. >>>> Real life examples: >>>> >>>> * \Family Album\2010\2010-08 - and therein are all photos that >>>> I've taken on that month of that year where family members can be >>>> seen. * \Travel\Jerusalem\2012\2012-03-10 - probably >>>> self-explanatory already * \International Travel\Rachel Sullivan in >>>> Israel\Galia\2011-05-10 - I have decided that the guests from >>>> abroad equal us going there but I may >>>> >>>> split \International Travel to \International Travel and >>>> \International >>>> >>>> Guests. Here we have photos made by Galia on a given date when >>>> Rachel came for a visit. >>>> >>>> Anyway, the classification is basic and always ends with date-time >>>> based sub-structure so that given a date, I can quite easily find >>>> what I need. Additionally, LR has wonderful feature where you can >>>> browse your collection by virtually any data item that your photos >>>> have - date, time, aperture, camera, lens, rating, flag status - >>>> you name it, LR has it. >>>> >>>> Obviously there are photos that answer more than one criteria - >>>> e.g. my >>>> >>>> girls while traveling abroad. Here come keywords. 99% of my >>>> keywords denote persons and places. The remaining 1% is wherever >>>> photos were uploaded, given to someone or chosen for publication. I >>>> organize my keywords in tree-like structure (it is really very >>>> easy, you either drag and drop or indicate the upper level keyword, >>>> when you create a new one >>>> >>>> (**) ). >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I started with that system having shot several tens >>>> of thousands photos hence I still have a good chunk of assigning >>>> keywords to do. >>>> >>>> Still, I am offering this as a possible answer to your question, >>>> Walt. Hope it helps. >>>> >>>> (*) I think it is more like 128 bit of delay... :-) (**) Whenever I >>>> create a new keyword, I immediately go to the "Keywords >>>> >>>> List" screen (on the right hand side in Gallery module) and find a >>>> proper way in the keyword tree for the new keyword. >>>> >>>> On 9/26/2012 12:38 AM, Walt wrote: >>>>> Hi all! >>>>> >>>>> Finally, after years of using Picasa, IrfanView and a few >>>>> Photoshop plugins, I finally decided to break down and get some >>>>> decent image editing software for my new setup. It's definitely >>>>> going to take a >>>> while >>>>> to get comfortable with it. I've checked out a few of the >>>>> tutorial videos at the Adobe website, which were reasonably >>>>> helpful, and >>>> wonder >>>>> if anyone can suggest some others that would be worth taking a >>>>> look >>>> at. >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions, tips, and/or advice would be greatly >>>>> appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> -- Walt >>>>> >>> > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
