> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist > > I don't have much to hide, and as a journalist, I'm frequently exposed > anyway, so I don't worry much about privacy. Extreme concerns about > privacy are a modern phenomenon in my opinion. There was a time when > people sought close contact with others for protection. Too much > privacy was dangerous. >
there is a world of difference between choosing close contact with others, and having others following you without your knowledge or permission. B > Paul > On Dec 19, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Gerrit Visser <gerrit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Cell phone tracking is entirely all invasive. The police can request > > from your provider, without your knowledge, all cell tower data for > > months at a time plus all your CDR's. I have seen the clear-text > > trouble tickets! An even bigger issue is that the processing of CDRs > > and cell tower data is often sub contracted to another company who > > does the billing. So now you have 2 companies and 2 sets of employees > > that have access to your data. And all too often, in NA, the company > > running the billing system is not US or Canadian. Given the > propensity > > for warrantless access laws, at least in NA, you have a major > > opportunity to leak data. And of course open to abuse, you can > imagine that less ethical groups might just have someone on the inside. > > > > If you watched the TED segment, you will know just how detailed that > > view is. They tracked him on train, bus, etc. > > > > So, the benefit of e911 is rather offset by what you give up. > > > > Gerrit > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms > > Sent: December 19, 2012 6:50 PM > > To: pdml@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos... > > > > Right, cell phone tracking is not all pervasive nor always entirely > evil. > > > > If I dial 911, I *want* them to know where I am ... just not enough > > replace a telephone that already works. > > > > From: Paul Stenquist > >> It would be good if someone kept track of where I am in case I > forget. > >> > >> Paul > >> On Dec 19, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Hunt <m...@pobox.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM, John Sessoms > >>> <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> > > wrote: > >>> > >>>> How are they going to know where I am if I can barely get service > >>>> from one tower? > >>> > >>> At least conceivably, beamforming antenna arrays at the tower (for > >>> azimuth), and round-trip signal delay (for the range). > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and > > follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
