My first digital experience was with Pentax full frame lenses on an *istD. It 
was not pleasing. CA and fringing were frequently a problem. I never owned some 
of the best full frame lenses, but I came away from my early digital efforts 
convinced that new lenses designed for APS-C digital were the way to go. I now 
use DA* lenses almost exclusively on my K-5, and I'm extremely pleased with the 
performance. Looking forward to trying them on the K-3. I expect they'll make a 
great team.

Paul
On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dario Bonazza <dario.bona...@virgilio.it> wrote:

> Practical experience shows that the best old FF lenses are quite decent
> performers on APS-C sensors, sometimes comparable to good 'digital' lenses
> (at least up to 12-16 megapixels), except for a typical higher CA and purple
> fringing.  That's because you get rid of the weaker part of their image
> field. Oh, and that only applies to focale lengths around 35mm or longer
> (most if not all older wide-angle lenses are much overperformed by current
> APS-C digital sensors).
> On the other hand, I still have to find a single 'analog' lens which is
> comparable to newer lens designs on FF sensors with a pixel count of 24 or
> 36 MP.
> Heck, even most FF digital designs cannot cope with the D800 sensor! Sure
> you can use whatever lens you like on a modern FF DSLR (provided you can fit
> and focus it), but don't expect to exploit their potential.
> 
> Dario
> 
> -----Messaggio originale----- From: J.C. O'Connell
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:57 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: K3 problem using flash and AA
> 
> My Reply : I disagree with regards to full frame. As long as the corner
> performance of the FF lenses
> matches 2/3 of the performance of the APSC lenses the overall system
> performance of FF will
> be equal to or greater than the Aps performance.  Generally speaking,
> you dont need as high a
> performance FF lenses for better overall system performance than apsc.
> Its a larger format, it has
> more overall lines of resolution even if the absolute line pairs/mm is
> lower.
> 
> 
> Regard no AA filter, aliasing occurs when the incoming spatial
> frequencies are too fast
> for the sampling. With a high resolution sensor and cheaper lower
> resolution lenses,
> NO aliasing will likely occur. Aliasing is more likely to occur with
> super high spec ultra
> high resolution * or APO lenses, not average or poor ones.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/16/2013 9:38 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
>> Darren Addy wrote:
>> 
>> Cameras with no AA filter are going to separate the "men from the
>> boys" as far as lenses are concerned. It is going to make APO and Star
>> lenses almost mandatory. Either that or you are going to have to
>> "enjoy" a lot more time in post-processing. This problem is
>> exacerbated by a full frame sensor which uses the corners of the image
>> circle that are getting cropped out by an APS-C camera. In short,
>> those who want a full frame DSLR are either going to have to use their
>> best lenses with it, or procure some.
>> 
>> My reply:
>> 
>> I keep telling that to all those funky boys begging Pentax for a full
>> frame camera and counting on good lenses of the past they already own and
>> treasure. Once FF will be available, you'll have to buy a whole new lens
>> outfit based on new-generation lenses (provided they will be made
>> available) or be satisfied with so-so performance.
>> 
>> That's well known by Canon and Nikon shooters, and mostly neglected among
>> dreaming Pentaxians. In brief, putting together a Pentax FF outfit won't
>> cost you less than switching to Canon or Nikon, the advantage being you
>> won't have to do that all at once.
>> 
>> Dario
>> 
> 
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