On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 05:30:59PM -0600, Bill wrote: > On 23/01/2014 2:08 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > >I am not seeing what was the problem in what he did. > >The modification he did did not change the purpose of the photo or > >whatever the photo presents. > > > >It brings back the question of what is and what is not "manipulation" of > >the photo. As "burning and dodging" is also image manipulation and > >modification. > >While I understand that one can defined the modification of an image > >when the actual pixels are replaced/moved. > >But what if he just darkened some portion of the photo with an object in > >it so that the object is deep in a shadow, and hence cannot be seen on the > >photo? That's not moving of the pixels, but just changing the levels > >on a part of the photograph. > > > >I understand the problem when a person is removed from a group photo, > >but that's totally different. > >I think in this particular case, they are making a mountain out of a > >molehill. > > A couple of things: > 1) It's a matter of principal. It's a news photo, and thusly should > be as unmanipulated as possible. > 2) Where is the slippery slope? When does it become not OK to make > manipulations? Are we OK with not knowing if an image we are being > presented with is a representation of the real thing or not? > > We aren't talking about a family portrait where we expect Aunt Maude > to look 10 years younger, and any manipulation that alters our > perception of the image is wrong, plain and simple. This includes > extreme contrast manipulation, extreme dodging and burning, removing > or adding subject matter, in fact anything that is done with the > intention of obscuring what was actually in front of the camera. > For myself, even using really long or really short focal lengths to > alter the image from a normal perspective can be an excessive > manipulation.
You forgot about cropping out things that you don't want visible in the final photo, and carefully composing the shot so that those details aren't even in the picture in the first place. Tools like photoshop just make it easier to perform some of the sorts of subterfuge that photographers have been doing for decades. > > bill > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
