> On Mar 5, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Mark Roberts <postmas...@robertstech.com> wrote:
> 
> Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Darren Addy <pixelsmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Worse still IMHO is that you must accept the b&w rendering that the
>>>> camera applies. That's like using a single film only for all your
>>>> shooting and seems awfully limiting. With a colour camera you can use
>>>> any of dozens of possible conversion techniques from RAW to b&w and so
>>>> get a lot more artistic control over the process.
>>> 
>>> Respectfully, Bruce, that's not true. If you read the B&H reviews,
>>> many people still enjoy using Silver Efex Pro to do their own
>>> rendering from the RAW files (which still contain way more information
>>> than a mere JPEG does).  You've got all kind of creativity left there.
>> 
>> After the camera has tonally mapped all the colour info into a
>> grayscale file though, no matter how many bits you have, even 16, you
>> still have lost the ability to creatively map the colour yourself.
>> About all that Silver Efex can do for you at that point is contrast,
>> curves, levels and sharpening/blurring/"structure" etc. Whereas with
>> the colour info intact you can create pseudo IR images if you want.
>> 
>> Yes, you can use colour filters on the lens to get back some control.
>> But still not as much as the raw colour output from un-neutered
>> cameras.
> 
> Quite. This is why B&W-only cameras don't make any sense to me.

I guess most people here don't remember working with B&W film... 

Working with the Leica MM is very much the same as buying 100 100' rolls of 
your favorite B&W film and shooting with that until you use it up, using 
filters and processing to adjust the spectral and tonal characteristics of your 
photos. Costs about the same too. 

G
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