You have expanded upon what I was trying to say most eloquently, Boris. Finger-pointing is not what I intended; quite the opposite.
I believe that most civilians on both sides of this divide only want peace, safety and security. Of course you, living in the midst of the tumult, have a unique first-hand perspective on what's happening. Of course being a friend, my personal concern is the safety of you and yours. Stay safe and take care. All the best, frank On 13 July, 2014 2:35:27 PM EDT, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote: >Please, let us absolutely not engage on this kind of discussions on the > >list. There are very good people who are suffering from both sides of >the fence. Let us honor them but not trying to establish who is right >and who is wrong, because both parties are both right and wrong. > >On 7/13/2014 9:01 PM, knarf wrote: >> From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than >simply controlling Hamas (even if that were possible). >> >> My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket >and other terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like. >> >> There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal. >> >> HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, >heavy-handed and seems bound to be ineffectual or worse. >> >> Here's what I know: >> >> Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win >world opinion and sympathy. >> >> The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice >innocent Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are >probably best discussed elsewhere. >> >> As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this >latest escalation started. >> >> Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their >actions. >> >> Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to >do that. Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue. >> >> Regards, >> >> frank >> >> On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> >wrote: >>> Boris, >>> We think of you and your family every day. >>> We hope for your continued safety. >>> We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' >>> I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. >>> I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the >>> rocket launchers. >>> Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death >>> will be visited upon them. >>> I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind >>> their neighbors. >>> Regards, Bob S. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Hello. >>>> >>>> Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey >any >>>> emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the >very >>> first >>>> one. >>>> >>>> * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to >>> linger in >>>> bed a bit longer. >>>> * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine >>>> * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the >>> kids and >>>> heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we >>> have 90 >>>> seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my >>> yesterday's >>>> t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that >>> everyone in >>>> our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between >the >>> first >>>> and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately >above >>> the >>>> ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. >>>> * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. >>> Anat is >>>> counting. >>>> * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were >>> sitting >>>> on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to >>> sitting on >>>> the floor. >>>> * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors >>> around us >>>> start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few >>> minutes later >>>> we return home to start our day. >>>> >>>> Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has >>> started. >>>> Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off >the >>> list. >>>> Frankly, your silence is deafening... >>>> >>>> Carry on. >>>> >>>> Boris >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and >>>> follow the directions. >> >> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel >> >> >> > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.