ann, our high temp forecast for today is either 108 or 109, depending upon whom 
you chose to believe. Gosh, I sure hope the 108 is right. whew!! hehe!
I've had a number of impromptu unguided shooting experiences wherein shooters 
would concentrate at the site's prime locations. Partially Ansel's fault. 
Yosemite and Grand Teton Ntl Pk, for example. There are several places in each 
area that you'd best get to early and squat on your spot. 
Never have I been shut out or had a kerfuffle with another photographer.  Well, 
there was this one time....oh, never mind.

J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Sanfedele" <ann...@nyc.rr.com>
To: "PDML" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:11:19 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101

Actually, I feel the same way about Nature walks, birding walks, 
committees,  travel tours ... The shot was "one" of the reasons...
but figuratively it coveres the whole terrain.

But basically I just don't like doing stuff in groups... and I 
especially don't like paying to do things in groups that I
can do just as well alone.  One other person is nice sometimes,
but a gaggle is too many.

It is annoyingly hot and humid here today - I'm grumpy

ann


On 7/14/2014 16:25, Ken Waller wrote:
>> One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" .
>
> I gotta respond to this as I've attended many workshops and tours and
> find most participants I've shot with don't exhibit this behavior. Sure
> the first timers is most likly to stick to a group and shoot in cluster,
> but the more experienced photog , in my experience will find his owns
> scenes and shoot them.
>
> I returned a few weeks ago from a workshop in the U P of Michigan and
> after 5 days of shooting with 4 other photogs, I can honestly say I
> never experienced the group shoot depicted in the photo. Perhaps it was
> the fact that the other participant were older more experienced photogs.
> Not to say we didn't point out to the others where we had made some images.
>
> And I guess the group shoot might reflect the on the leader and the way
> he runs the workshop.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Sanfedele" <ann...@nyc.rr.com>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
>
>
> Oy.  One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" .
>
> ann
>
> On 7/12/2014 11:32, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Great fun!  Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf <knarftheria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility
>>> and stealth:
>>>
>>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> frank
>>> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel
>
>

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