I'm all about learning new stuff, so I appreciated P.J.'s correction
(in the thread above). This led me to a little Google-Fu workout and I
thought I might share something that might be of interest to the
Photoshop users of the group. This little plug-in is free to try, but
only works on images up to 800x600. To use it on larger images, one
has to pay the 15 euro shareware fee:
http://flofilters.free.fr/

I have not used either the trial version or the full version yet, but
I thought I would pass the info along in case someone has experience
with it or would like to give it a shot. Cheap enough, if it does what
it says. It seems it has been recommended by a lot of people over the
years, but not mentioned much in recent years - so maybe there is a
better tools (or one that comes with post-processing software?)

I'm all ears...

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I know, the 18% gray is what I can use to restore detail as I chose. You're 
> right, spot metering is truly a wing shooting sport.
> I use it for the occasional (OK, rare) accidental direct hit. Seems it would 
> have been ideal in Peter's case.
>
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@comcast.net>
> To: "PDML" <pdml@pdml.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:05:55 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...
>
> Spot metering on the body would yield a bird that's 18 percent gray. Of 
> course it's easy to bring out the white in conversion. But spot metering is 
> not always practical with a moving target. I wouldn't go that way.
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Oct 4, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't have a very dark background, so matrix worked fairly well. I'd 
>> guess that
>> had you used spot metering on it's body, you would have gained the desired 
>> additional feather detail.
>> I do think it's a good shot as is.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
>> To: "PDML" <pdml@pdml.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:37:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...
>>
>> Matrix Metering was what I used.
>>
>>> On 10/3/2014 11:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> I've noticed, Paul, that in recent years you've had better luck reducing 
>>> clipped whites.
>>> I agree that matrix metering would help.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@comcast.net>
>>> To: "PDML" <pdml@pdml.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 4:44:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...
>>>
>>> Odd. I use the full matrix metering on both the k-5 and k-3 when shooting 
>>> egrets, and I haven’t blown one out in recent years. Generally, white 
>>> objects will slightly underexpose because a dumb meter considers them 
>>> neutral. I’ve shot them both against a bright sky and against dark water 
>>> and shrubs. No blow outs. I don’t believe I used exposure comp on any of 
>>> the shots. I do shoot RAW and usually pull down highlights in conversion.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> P.J. You don't indicate the focus metering. Could it have been other than 
>>>> spot?
>>>>
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "PDML" <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 4:05:11 PM
>>>> Subject: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...
>>>>
>>>> But three views.  I always blow out the highlights, even dialed in -2
>>>> stops of exposure.
>>>>
>>>> The first two are about 1/2 to 2/3 frame crops.
>>>>
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20fishin.html
>>>>
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20caught.html
>>>>
>>>> The last is the full frame
>>>>
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---backtofishin.html
>>>>
>>>> Equipment:  Pentax K-5II w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Komine)
>>>>
>>>> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>>>>
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