Fred-
What is the significance between a 3:1 vs. 2.5:1 zoom? I thought
focal length was focal length? Is there a difference in terms of
lens construction that makes this important?

Taka

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Subject: Re: Oh, sweet enablement!


> Anyone considering the purchase of a 70-210/4 zoom should price the 
> 80-200/2.8 zooms. It's surprising how small a premium you pay to get 
> the extra speed (and hence ease of focus), build quality, and panache 
> in this lens class. The real penalty is weight, but at least you get a

> tripod mount.

[and]

> I am in that exact situation but the Tokina AT-X 80-200 f/2.8 is $350 
> from KEH, while the SMC-A 70-210 f/4 is $160 in the same condition, 
> avail. for $125 or thereabouts in bargain condition. To me, that's a 
> big difference. If you feel that it is absolutely worth saving up to 
> get the bigger, brighter lens, I understand that and maybe I'll wait 
> and save some more.

The subject line of this thread is indeed appropriate - <g>.

Yes, there are advantages to having a brighter 80-200/2.8, as compared
to a "dimmer" (?) 70-210/4, but there are disadvantages,
too:

1.  Weight, as mentioned.

2.  Size (physical dimensions, separate from weight).

3.  80-200 is a 2.5 to 1 zoom range, while 70-210 is a 3.0 to 1 zoom
range, and that ~is~ a significant difference (although often overlooked
in discussions of 70-210 vs 80-200 lenses).  (This is also the main
reason why I prefer the A 70-210/4 to the M 80-200/4.5
- it's not the small speed difference of f/4 vs f/4.5.)

4.  The Pentax lens is a jen-you-wine SMC Pentax.  The Tokina (which is
a good lens - don't get me wrong), well, it, er, "isn't".

I ~used to~ have a (manual focus) Tokina AT-X 80-200/2.8, but I ~still~
have my Pentax A 70-210/4's.  Almost never have I missed the extra stop
of speed.  (If I'm shooting inn really low light, I'm using fast primes
such as the A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8, and K 200/2.5
anyway.)

AT-X 80-200/2.8 - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/x8020028/

A 70-210/4 - http://phred.org/pentax/lensgal/a70-210_4/ge1c.html

Fred
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