This is where black box data will come in handy if the driver doesn't fess
up to his mistake.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan C" <c...@lantic.net>
Subject: Re: Woo Hoo!
Boo Hoo! Idiot. At least no humans were injured.
https://www.enca.com/south-africa/driver-crashes-two-day-old-ferrari-tree
Alan C
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Waller
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:36 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo!
I bet Audi wish they had black boxes in the 80s...
I bet they wish they had handled the entire unintended acceleration issue
differently...
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Knarf" <knarftheria...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo!
I bet Audi wish they had black boxes in the 80s...
Cheers,
frank
On 1 September, 2015 2:11:57 PM EDT, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com>
wrote:
Self-driven cars will record all the variables that they monitor and
control, and there will be a blackbox >recorder like on a plane, which
will
be amenable to independent accident investigators, not to say lawyers,
so
>there will be nowhere for the manufacturers to hide.
So called 'blackboxes' have been in new cars for several years -
recording
among other things accelerator & brake pedal usage. The issue has
surfaced
as to who 'owns' the data - the car owner, law enforcement. In some
cases
I'm aware of it has taken a court order for outsiders to access the
data.
Black boxes are great in unintended acceleration cases especially where
the
driver states he was pressing the brake pedal when the data shown
otherwisw.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob W-PDML" <p...@web-options.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo!
That case was nearly 50 years ago; since that time consumer power has
changed dramatically, and so has the availability of evidence.
Self-driven
cars will record all the variables that they monitor and control, and
there will be a blackbox recorder like on a plane, which will be
amenable
to independent accident investigators, not to say lawyers, so there
will
be nowhere for the manufacturers to hide.
They have no choice but to put safety before profit. The alternative
is no
more manufacturer.
Because of increased consumer power, thanks to people like Ralph
Nader who
was so vilified by so many Americans caught up in the corporate lie,
manufacturers are far quicker to recall products for much smaller
issues,
and in the case of software it will be far easier and cheaper to
correct
it than will ever be the case with hardware.
B
On 31 Aug 2015, at 21:30, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Do you remember the Ford Pinto with the faulty gas tanks?
http://www.autosafety.org/uploads/phpq3mJ7F_FordMemo.pdf
Do you think the manufacturers of self-driving cars will be any more
ethical? Will they put passenger safety ahead of profit?
On 8/31/2015 3:25 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
On 31 Aug 2015, at 20:10, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
According to some, [...] those who deny that it is possible are
wrong.
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
[...] The conspiracy folks [...]
Do you really, really think that the people who are designing this
stuff are not aware of the risks, and do not spend a lot of time
and
money thinking about this stuff, working through the possibilities
and the countermeasures? Have you any idea at all of the types of
people who are involved in designing and validating safety-critical
software?
Even so, it won't be perfect, but anyone who thinks that the risks
of
the imperfect software coupled with a bloody big Stop! button in
every car outweigh the benefits of saving upwards of 1,000,000
lives
per year lost as the result of human errors must be barking mad.
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