Hi Larry:  I totally agree with your comments about the Nikon controls and UI.  
I have played with the Nikons in camera stores, and boy did I experience 
frustration with figuring out UI.

As to your other observations, I don’t find them surprising.

Cheers, Christine


> On Jan 25, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
> 
> Some friends were playing (actually running a pro-jam) at a local BBQ last 
> night.  One of them asked me to take photos with his camera, a D810.
> 
> The first thing that I noticed was that the controls on it are not intuitive. 
>  That's not to say that they are not logical, but they were very difficult to 
> figure out.  I was able to muddle through and figure a few things out. A 
> couple things (like enabling the RGB histogram) I was able to find enough 
> hints on the web to do. And a couple things (like exposure compensation on 
> the flash) I asked him how to do when he wasn't on stage.
> 
> IIRC, the lenses in his bag that I played with were:
> 
> 50/1.8
> 35/1.8
> 85/1.8
> 28-200 (4-6.3?)
> 
> Some thoughts on the experience:
> 
> Familiarity with the equipment is far more important than actual camera 
> performance in any sort of challenging light.  At first, I couldn't even 
> figure out how to put it in manual mode, change composition, or find the RGB 
> histogram so that I could see what channels I was blowing out.  It was kind 
> of like trying to drive an autocross in a Ferrari after four shots of whisky, 
> while wearing snowshoes.
> 
> I haven't seen anything except on the back of the camera, but the autofocus 
> seems to leave the Pentax in the dust.
> 
> Judging by the back of the camera previews, the fullframe sensor high ISO 
> performance is significantly better than the K-5 or K-3.
> 
> Once I got the flash under control, it may have had better exposure control 
> than on the Pentax.  It's hard to tell, it was a challenging room, and I was 
> using the flash primarily for fill, once I was able to turn it down.
> 
> Even once I learned how to use many of the basic controls, many of the basic 
> operations seem to be a lot better on the Pentax than the Nikon. I suspect 
> that that would hold true even once I was really familiar and comfortable 
> with the Nikon UI.  Mind you, I'm not saying that Pentax has a good UI, it 
> just seems to suck a bit less than Nikon.
> 
> One nice thing about using someone else's camera is that I got all of the fun 
> of taking the photos, but I don't need to do the work of sorting and 
> processing them.
> 
> Although, it would be interesting to get the raw files of the ones that did 
> turn out to see what I could do with them in Lightroom.
> 
> This confirms something that I've been thinking about lately.  When the K-1 
> comes out, I will have to take a good hard look comparing its performance 
> (including ease of use) with that of equivalent Nikons. Taking full advantage 
> of the big sensor will require significant investment in new glass over time, 
> and that would be the time to fully understand my options.
> 
> 
> 
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