Thank you Bruce for the info you've supplied.  First of all, I
suggest that we refrain from making remarks about the poster and
concentrate on the facts.  This will be more helpful to the
originator of this thread in helping him/her decide.

I'm not writing a review of the MZ-S which is why there's no
detail of any positive remarks.  I assume the person can find
those positive quality he/she likes.  I'm only offering my
opinion of some of what I considered a negative quality of the
MZ-S.  Please keep in mind that I'm not an SLR designer :-(.

RB> o 1/180 flash sync speed - I can't understand how Pentax could go
backward
RB>   on this!  The PZ-1 has a nice 1/250!  1/180 is in nowhere land, like
the
RB> 1/100
RB>   sync that came down all the way from the ME!

B> On the one hand you applaud the smaller size and weight and then
B> critizice it for making minor concessions to achieve it.  The shutter
B> determines both top speed and top flash synch.  The shutter in the
B> PZ-1p is bigger, heavier, louder and more bouncy.  What Pentax has
B> done is used a refined, quieter, better damped shutter at the expense
B> of about 1/2 stop.  I have used both and there is really not much
B> difference.

Perhaps, but please bear in mind that the PZ-1 (same shutter as the PZ-1p)
was introduced back in 1991.  I sincerely hope that material science and
mechanical engineering has advanced a lot in 10 years!

RB> o 0.75X viewfinder magnification.  I don't understand why less
magnification
RB>   is better.  I understand the high eyepoint, etc. When I look through
my MX
RB>   (0.98X magnification) with my 24mm lens, I can really see the
perspective
RB>   effect (near-far, etc.).  On my old SuperProgram with 0.82X, it was
more
RB>   difficult but still useable. Same goes for 0.8X of the PZ-1 which I
think
RB>   is at the limit, but 0.86X would be nicer.

B> Viewfinders are always a land of compromise.  I would love to hear
B> from someone with knowledge about what decisions went in to the design
B> of this particular finder.  Moving from the PZ-1p to the MZ-S has not
B> caused me to long for the PZ-1p.  In fact, I really didn't notice any
B> negative differences.

Compromise?  Agreed with you 100%.  But put yourself in my shoes, I'm coming
from a MX with 0.98X magnification ;-).

RB> o Still no flash compensation!

B> There you are wrong my friend.  Pentax changed the nature of flash
B> compensation.  They now work like Nikon, Canon and Minolta - that is -
B> the flash compensation is built into the flash rather than the body.
B> The new AF360FGZ has full flash compensation and high speed synch (up
B> to 1/6000) to boot.  Most uses of fill flash in bright light are for
B> portraits - shadow filling and eye catchlights.  The MZ-S is an
B> improvement over the PZ-1p.

Thank you very much for pointing out this info.  The 360FGZ is a new flash
to me and I don't have much info about it yet.  Much obliged.

RB>  If the MZ-S price tag was $500, perhaps I could live these RB>
RB>shortcomings.  But at $900, well it's certainly a cause for a pause.
RB>So I've been thinking that perhaps I should wait for an "MZ-Sn" and
RB>get a lightweight ZX-L (with all its short comings) in the meantime.

B> I don't know where you got $900 from.  I paid $800 for both of mine. I
B> guess the funny thing about your post, is you failed to note any of
B> the positives of the MZ-S over the PZ-1p.  If nothing about the new
B> camera is important, you would do best to stay with what you have.

My apology.  You're right; the price is $799.95 from B&H.

B> Sorry for sounding a little ornery, but your post came across as very
B> uninformed and you only compared a few features.  Very biased, in my
B> opinion.  What I can tell you is that the style and philosophy of
B> these two cameras are different.  In most of the discussions those who
B> like the Canon Robo style of interface (spinning dials - all control
B> in the body) prefer the PZ-1p.  Those who like the more retro
B> interface (LX, SuperProgram, ZX-5n) prefer the MZ-S.

Relax, Bruce.  I wasn't trying to criticize your MZ-S, only offering my
opinion.  I'm entitled to an opinion, right ;-)?

B> You really should try using one to see what you really think.

I would, but at $800, I must be a little more cautious at my hard earned
dough ;-).  When the PZ-1 came out, there was not doubt that it was the
SLR I wanted (despite its size and weight at the time).

Last but not least, can you tell us which features of the MZ-S got your
sold?  Remember, some features that you like may be unimportant to others.
I certainly like the height of the RTF, 24mm coverage with red-eye
reduction.
Having the DOFP when the lens is set to A is a big plus.  The mirror lock
is a big plus.  MOre info in the viewfinder than PZ-1 - a big improvemnt
(though many were in the PZ-1p).  Can't think of any other features that
would be a big seller to me.

Wishing you much happiness Bruce from your new MZ-S.

Ron B[ee]
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