The second set (k20) appears to be the wrong set.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
> I've been exploring the K-1 and night photography lately.  This set was shot
> in the same place, on two different nights. The first night there was a half
> moon that had risen a couple hours previously, the second night there was no
> light from the moon, but a lot more light from hwy 17 lighting the
> foreground.  They were actually two nights apart, it's just that the first
> night was after midnight so the dates only show one day difference:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157670122716326
>
> If you look at the exif data:
>
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157670122716326
>
> By way of comparison, here are some photos taken with the K20 at the same
> spot, late at night.  The mists made the scene a bit more photogenic.
>
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157625430541230
>
> You will see that after post processing it is nearly impossible to tell
> apart two shots with the same exposure apart from ISO.  I don't know why I
> can see the milky way in the first set, but not the second set, perhaps it
> hadn't moved into the scene yet because that is exactly the opposite of what
> I expected.
>
> On one hand, this means that if your post processing software could handle
> it, you could shoot at base ISO all of the time, and almost never clip your
> highlights.  However, since lightroom does not handle more than 5EV
> gracefully, there is also little to no downside to pushing the ISO hard
> enough to see what you need to see (so long as you don't clip highlights).
>
> I was shooting way under exposed last night so as not to blow out the
> colored lights behind the band I was shooting. The problem was that the
> people in the foreground were so dark, I couldn't see anything useful on the
> display.
>
> I would love to see a paradigm shift in cameras used by people who shoot in
> raw.  The ability to always shoot at base ISO (not the requirement, but the
> ability), and to have an equivalent to ISO control, simply control the
> brightness of the preview jpeg.  Ideally, being able to adjust it in camera
> while you're looking at it.
> The histogram would, of course, report the raw data, ideally also showing a
> number with the percentage of clipped pixels in each channel.
> I'd love to see some sort of number showing SNR in the shadows as well.
>
> The only photos of any artistic merit are the ones of the fir trees at the
> end.  They were well lit by the headlights on the hwy.  There are some weird
> effects where they have more illumination in some shots than others. It may
> have something to do with traffic patterns, though it didn't seem to vary
> that much over 20 second time spans at the time.
>
> For people who know the area, I took the bear creek / Black Road exit, and
> doubled back to Montevina road. I parked at a little pullout there and
> walked a hundred yards/meters or so back towards the exit to get a better
> view of the lagoon.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for a chance to try my luck with M31.  I haven't had
> both a clear view of it and a long lens.  It seems to be rising pretty late
> at night, usually after the moon.
>
>
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