Totally agree Bob.

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>From: Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com>
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>On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:57, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Jostein Øksne wrote:
>>> I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography, that a 
>>> guy called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar photo. It triggered 
>>> one of the most on-topic flame wars we ever had.
>>> 
>>> With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable person exposed 
>>> in a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in finding it crossing a 
>>> fine line of something negative. Indecency, maybe.
>>> Jostein
>> 
>> I think that Marco should change his name to Rorschach. If you don't find 
>> anything wrong with someone being fat, there is nothing to criticize in the 
>> photo. Also note that what she is eating is an apple, something people 
>> attempting to lose weight often eat as they can be filling without a high 
>> caloric load.
>> 
>> This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph itself 
>> is making no value judgement, however the people looking at it are free to 
>> be as judgmental as they want.
>> 
>
>That's rubbish, and you know it. The photographer chooses which pictures to 
>take, and then chooses whether or not to show them, then chooses how they are 
>shown. Every photograph anyone ever took makes many value judgements.
>
>B
>> 
>>> 
>>> Den 28. november 2016 15.51.08 CET, skrev ann sanfedele<ann...@nyc.rr.com>:
>>>> It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street photos
>>>> in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry about friends
>>>> 
>>>> who are from a health perspective..
>>>> She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always something I
>>>> turn away from no matter who is eating..
>>>> 
>>>> ann
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>>>> Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> m
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele<ann...@nyc.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing
>>>> this..
>>>>>> I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I
>>>> find it difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..
>>>>>> ann
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>>>>>> Mean?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele<ann...@nyc.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Now that's just mean..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ann
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Marco
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> http://www.alpert.com/marco
>>>>>>>>> 
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