What I miss here lately, and what I can not get on FaceBook, is intelligent and constructive criticism.
Ten years ago, and even 3 or 4 years ago, I would post an image and more experienced and talented members of the group would give me honest -- and sometimes even brutal -- criticisms, More often, a post would draw comments on what was interesting and good about the image, what aspects were weak or dissonant, and what could have been done, or still could be done, to make it stronger. Now, a few people will let me know if they think one of my submissions has some merit. If I get no response to a PESO, I get the message that no one particularly likes it, but it has been quite some time since I received some critical feedback, and even longer since I saw any negative feedback. I think we have become more and more like FaceBook, where people will "like" an image, but not go much beyond that. There have been a few images in the recent past that have provoked interesting and meaningful discussions on composition, lighting,l exposure or other aspects of the work, but those seem to me few and far between. Much more common are posts with no feedback or with a comment like "pretty butterfly." Everyone likes to hear that the subject of their image is attractive, but that is no substitute for the kinds of intense discussions and debates that went on here when the number of active participants was higher. Just the grumblings of an old grouch. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:23 AM P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think a lot of us are still her, but just resting, after all, > Ricoh/Pentax doesn't have the release schedule of Sony, Canon, Nikon or > even Panasonic, so talking about hardware is kind of redundant, after > all how much navel gazing can one do about cameras that only change > every 2 years. > > Hell it's not like Sony throwing spaghetti at the wall with three > different versions of the same camera with release dates only a few > months, at most apart, or Canon bringing out a new entry model every 6 > months or so, with often only minor changes from the previous version, > pushing the previous model down a step until it somewhere falls off > Canon's current list. > > On the other hand, if you want to navel gaze about once and future > cameras there's always the Pentax Fora. > > Some of us would contribute more if someone hadn't already beaten us to > the punch, after all what else can you say to a great or merely good > photo when someone else has already expressed, more or less, your > thoughts except, me too. That gets old after a while, even for the > poster. > > Everyone here is too accomplished to post any photograph that's really > bad here, except maybe for me, and usually I've been drinking. > > > On 10/10/2018 7:56 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > That is hopeful news. > > > > Does the PDML have a future? It seems there are fewer participants each > > month. > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:53 PM Brian Walters <apathy...@lyons-ryan.org> > > wrote: > > > >> G'day all > >> > >> I just noticed this on DP Review: > >> > >> https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61777199 > >> > >> So, maybe. > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> Brian > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> Brian Walters > >> Western Sydney Australia > >> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > >> https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > > -- > America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. > America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. > - P.J. O'Rourke > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
