My 1953 Leica iiif RD has a red dial but no red dot. 

Paul

> On Oct 25, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> Barbarian! The best Leicas don't have a red dot.
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2018, at 17:46, mike wilson <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 October 2018 at 17:29 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Beautiful!
>> 
>> I'm not getting that.  Functional, maybe, and well-finished.  But the 
>> advance lever is just ugly.  And only a tiny red dot on the back for your 8K.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 25 Oct 2018, at 17:21, Mark Roberts <postmas...@robertstech.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigio...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Slightly off-topic for PDML, but I thought BobW, Cotty, and maybe a 
>>>>> couple others might be interested. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> This is a new take on the "M-mount digital camera" that I saw on Leica 
>>>>> Rumors: https://pixii.fr. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rangefinder, manual focus and exposure, no LCD, 256G built-in memory 
>>>>> only, WiFi connect for data transfer, etc. They don't list a sensor 
>>>>> format and Mpixel yet, but rumor has it that it's an APS-C format with 12 
>>>>> to 16 Mpixels. Another information update is supposedly due soon.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone yet mentioned that Leica has since announced that they're
>>>> making essentially the same kind of camera?
>>>> https://petapixel.com/2018/10/24/leica-m10-d-a-minimalist-analog-body-with-wi-fi-instead-of-an-lcd/
>>>> 
>>>> Minimalist. No LCD. WiFi only. 
>>>> It's 24MP full-frame. (I can's see myself using a Leica rangefinder
>>>> with Leica lenses if not full frame - just doesn't "feel" right to
>>>> me.)
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, being Leica, the *price* isn't minimalist: 8 grand.
>>>> 
>>>> If not for the price I could quite see myself using one of these.
>> 
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