On Saturday, June 1, 2002, at 03:50 AM, ww wrote:

> i am down to the following list
> chinon cm 5
> sigma sa1/ricoh kr7
> pentax kx, mx or k1000
> how evr the first 2 are really cheap
> i would like the following mlu, dfp,not as important as the following 
> shutter
> speed can be regardless of battery being flat

The Ricoh and Chinon should lock the mirror up when the self timer is 
engaged but otherwise don't offer this feature. The Ricoh XR-1 does have 
DoF preview and all manual speeds and sounds like the closest thing to 
what you want other than a KX.

JeffW.
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