Thanks Larry, good food for thought, and good information. I already use many of your suggested rating/sorting approaches for my own images, but trying to set up for someone else is new to me. And so I am rethinking how I do my own as well as how to help her out.
Stan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2022, at 12:32 AM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote: > > Stan, > > Your sister in law’s reaction is an important detail. It changes a bit about > how I would want to go about it. It is arguably a bit more work for you > though. > > One important thing I have learned is that you never know what “merely > decent” photo is going to prove useful later on. On multiple occasions I’ve > had cause to rummage through my library for photos to share for someone’s > memorial. > > The good news is that with Lightroom it is very easy to make a collection and > use that to create a smaller, select, catalog to share with your sister in > law. > > Jeffrey Friedl also has a couple of plug-ins that you’ll find very helpful > for sharing photos with your SiL. > > http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/folder-publisher > will export photos maintaining the directory structure that you store the raw > files in. > > http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/collection-publisher > does the same but with collection structure. > > I have the feeling that your SiL would just want a reasonable chance of > finding the final JPEGS rather than the ability to access the files in > Lightroom. > > >> On Nov 11, 2022, at 8:22 PM, Stan Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info> wrote: >> >> Thanks Larry. Totally agree with both points: (1) file organization should >> be such that it helps people find images, not just so that LR or other >> software can find stuff. My brother has his CDs for example, well sorted by >> image capture date. Which is fine if you have his calendar and list of key >> event date times. And (2) I’ll test any possible solutions with a small >> sample. >> >> I told my sister in law this evening that I had recovered 39,000+ Digital >> images from 2000-2011. And I showed her a small sample from 2004. Her >> reaction: “why did he keep those!?! I would have thrown those away!” In >> short, she won’t be compulsive about retaining everything -she wants >> reasonable access to key images of important times and places. (They both >> worked quite a bit outside the U.S. and did much travel…) so my.challenge is >> to help her ID and organize what is important to her, not necessarily what >> my brother would have wanted to preserve. > > Again, this is how I would want to go about it, I’m not assuming this is what > would work for you, but I hope that it would give you a good start on a > procedure. I’m also assuming no knowledge on your part, I don’t mean to > insult your intelligence by stating the obvious. > > Are the CDs flat directories? Or are the directories on them organized. If > your brother organized the file on the CDs, you’d probably want to maintain > that structure, otherwise you can import into your file tree directly. > > I would organize the directories > > Year > + Month > +-- CD, by name. or YYYYMMDD_cdname > > When importing files I have lightroom prepend the capture date to each file > name, that makes it easier to find the raw from the jpeg. > > Any keywording you can do at this point could prove helpful later on. CD > name, location, names of people, even facial recognition. > > I do a lot of winnowing down large numbers of photos. My strategy is to go > through several passes very quickly. If I have any doubts of whether to keep > or throw away, I postpone the decision to a later stage when there are fewer > decisions to make. > > My personal star rating is: > 1. the file is totally ruined, there is nothing recognizable, could be deleted > 2. Not worth taking a second look at (though it might be useful for HDR, > pano, greycard etc.) > 3. Nominally it means “good enough to post on the web”, at this stage it > means “good enough to look at again” > 4. Good enough to print > 5. Good enough for my portfolio > > For speed, my first pass I just mark anything worth a second look as a 3, and > at the end do a group set to 2 stars of anything left unrated. > If I find something I KNOW is amazing, I’ll use P to mark it (yes I P on the > good ones) now. I’ll do this stage with the filter set to show me unrated > photos, and I work from the start to the end. I may do a grid/group > selection and rate as 2 to a bunch that I’ve looked at and passed over > incrementally as I go through a really big directory. > > Once I’ve gone through all my fresh photos like this (ideally not immediately > after) I’ll go through each directory, starting at the back, working towards > the front and use P to “pick” any that I want to look at again. > > I’ll do a few more passes using the collection and subcollection tools to > winnow things down further, incrementing a number on each pass. I delete from > a selection moving from the left and pick for the next selection moving from > the right. > > At some point, if I can get someone else to look over the photos I have them > use the color flags to give their independent rating (this is where your SiL > might come in if she is interested and willing. > 6 = red = yuck > 7 = yellow = meh > 8 = green = like > > 9 = blue and can either be “super like”, or I like it no matter what they > decide. > > P and X are often fairly transient. > > I try to put off much processing as long as possible, though sometimes mass > correction of color or exposure fairly early can be helpful. > > As I said, the most important thing is multiple fast passes, put off slow > decisions until you have many fewer decisions to make. > > >> >> If I had known I would be doing this, I would have started a year ago when >> my brother still had the mental capacity to help with this project! >> Stan >> Sent from my iPad >> >>>> On Nov 11, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Stanley Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info> >>>> wrote: >>>> But, to the Question: Now that I have his scanned slides and digital >>>> images on a hard drive, readable on their HP and on my Mac, I thought I >>>> would create a new Lightroom Catalog on my system as a way to >>>> review/preview his images. And then I would export-as-catalog to an >>>> external drive, and then import that to their new HP. So, would this work? >>>> Will LR on a Windows machine read an LR catalog created via LR on a Mac? >>> >>> Everybody has their own way of organizing their Lightroom Catalog. I would >>> strongly recommend that the files themselves are organized in a manner that >>> makes photos relatively easy to find without using lightroom. >>> >>> I don’t know for sure, but I strongly suspect that the catalog format is OS >>> independent, so long as the file trees are compatible. Again, I’d strongly >>> suggest testing with a smaller catalog first. >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Colen >>> l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood >>> >>> >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
