First, Sid Said: But all of these neat little features on the K2, and DMD are available as electronic bells and whistles on succeeding generations of Pentax models, on smaller lighter bodies, with lots of things added later on to make them even more "user friendly".
And then Jim said: Since when is my PZ1-p user friendly? I think the K1000's simplicity is more user friendly than the modern SLRs of Pentax and others. Sid now says: Ah, slightly wrong choice of words. I should have said "feature rich" maybe. But, I do think the PZ1 rather easy to learn, and each "hyper shift" or "pentax function choice" is only a button push and/or dial turn... the bells and whistles you're apt to use are "user-friendly" enough to be able to recall them without pulling out the manual. I know it's that way for me, and I'm not a genius. Now, some of the crazy things they put on the PZ series that make some of the zoom lenses do odd things-- I tried a couple of those one time, didn't have a doubt I'd never need them; I wondered-- who in the world did they think would use these features enough to warrant the R & D time they spent on them. you're right about the K1000-- ten jillion users over the years can't be wrong. But I wonder about the persistence of the K1000's popularity in the used market, like on ebay. On any given day, there might be 100 K1000s for sale, and if you look even closer, usually these models have multiple bidders going after them. But let's face it, the model is a stripped down version of the Spotmatic F, with some features removed. Simple, reliable. But, you also see every day on ebay lots of super programs, ME supers, heck, even SF series, PZ series, all are represented..... And, the K1000s are fetching prices higher than the super programs, often! I can't understand that, other than reputation, and buyer's lack of research. The super program is, in my opinion, the best value on the used market, manual focus. Not as simple as the K1000, but come on, who on this list would say the super program is too difficult for just about anyone, even brand newbies, to learn after only a few minutes of examining it, even without a manual? well, getting off track starting to ramble.... Hope I don't sound like I'm bashing the K1000. I'm sure Pentax is proud of it. Probably kept them in business these last couple of decades when they've sort of "fallen behind" the C and N, maybe even the M crowd. A good, simple, basic, design. But now, in the marketplace today, I don't follow the logic of buyers of K1000s now. Too many other, better choices in used cameras. Sid Jim Apilado wrote: > >Jim A. > > >>From: Sid Barras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:18:47 -0500 >>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: was: The K2 or LX question/ Sid adds his blasphemy >> >>I have the K2, K2DMD. A wonderful camera. In fact, at one time I had 8 >>K2 bodies, 2 K2DMDs, winders, etc. etc. I sold one DMD and a >>winder/remote cord/grip to finance an LX purchase. Haven't got it yet, >>but it will be my next purchase. The K2 had everything one might want >>from a semi pro positioned manual focus camera. The 125th flash sync is >>much nicer than 1/60th; the exposure lock was way ahead of its time and >>very useful. The DMD mechanical trick of having a little periscope to >>read the aperture setting (won't work on all off brand lenses though) is >>clever. The DMD other trick of having a red window appear in the >>viewfinder to alert the photographer of exposure compensation being used >>is also a neat "mechanical" accomplishment. >> >> >> >>The blasphemous point I'm approaching here is this: If you want a camera >>with lots of features for picture taking, get an ME super, or for even >>more features, a super program, or a program plus, or add some more >>features plus autofocus with a PZ 1 or PZ 20, or if better autofocus is >>required, then ZX (MZ) 5n, or 7. >> >>The K2s and DMD I have are toys, beautiful, expensive, finely crafted, >>precision engineered, but they are my toys. The bulk of picture taking I >>do for other people is invariably taken with the later models, in >>particular, the PZ1 first, then the PZ 20, and the super program as the >>third option. I just like to have better assurance of success, like >>having TTL flash, mainly. Plus, these cameras are lighter, and plenty >>enough robust for the "semi-pro" use I give them. In fact, the PZ1 has >>survived several drops (one of them about 4 feet onto concrete-- >>survived with only an abrasion to the corner) If I drop one of my k2s, >>they'll invariable be a dent there, and the value of the camera for >>resale has probably just dropped $100..... >> >>Now, of course I haven't even mentioned the screw mount cameras and >>lenses. They might even be as good a solution as the K2 for someone who >>wanted a manual focus camera. The spotmatic F has full frame averaging >>metering, probably not as good as K2's center weighted, advanced meter. >>But the screw mount lenses are out there in the thousands, and I've got >>a complete set of SMC T prime lenses up to the 400, and spent less than >>$1000..... >> >>well, that's probably too long-winded of me already.... but, there you >>have my 2 cents. >>Sid >>- >>This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >>go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >>visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
