In fact, anyone who sells products in the same marketplace IS competing with them - doesn't pentax outdo them in some market segments? We maybe don't expect or want pentax to go gung ho for the professional journo/sports photog market with the consequences that may be involved in an impossible task, but most people here seem to want them to do better than they are currently as far as I understand thousands of posts. They will possibly never catch up with C* and N* in brand perception, but they need to move forward as they are becoming les and less visible in the SLR market as things stand.
I do praise and embrace the MZ-S, but I will be more than happy if they bring out even better products... > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 12 September 2002 15:49 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > > Ok. This point I make only, I have seen many posts that > Pentax cannot compete with Nikon and Canon, like Minolta > tried. So do we or don't we want Pentax to try? I thought > the majority position was no. Then we should all praise the > MZ-S and embrace it :) > > No hard feelings, I may have read your email wrong too. > > Brad Dobo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:49 AM > Subject: RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > > > Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, and I never even hinted that you > > werent a true photographer. > > > > But... > > > > What you said WAS crazy. Almost everyone else wants Pentax > to advance > > and catch up with their competitors. > > > > You say you can go to other brands if you want fast > development - yes, > > this is why pentax is losing more and more high end marketshare to > > these brands. But as I said, you can go to other brands that suit > > YOUR preferences for a static range of status symbols - > Leica do that > > very nicely. You could buy their top of the range and not be > > superseded for many years to come. Pentax does not really have the > > brand cachet (much as we might want it to) in 35mm to fit your > > requirements. For Pentax to survive, they need to innovate > - so the > > course you want is not really suitable. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 12 September 2002 14:41 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > > > > > > > > Well, that was a rude email. I dislike those that call me crazy, > > > and no, I could care less if Pentax didn't come up with things as > > > fast and much as possible. I can go to other brands if I > want that. > > > Get a grip? Again you are saying I'm out of reality, and perhaps > > > (again) crazy. As I've said before, that's my > preference. I don't > > > care if you don't like it. As for status symbols, > cameras are like > > > that whether you like it or not. It's just like a car. Now you > > > would probably say those people aren't 'real' or 'true' > > > photograhers, so does that mean if I own a Porshe 911 and you > > > have a Corvette, that I'm not a real driver? > > > > > > *sigh* > > > > > > Brad Dobo > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:26 AM > > > Subject: RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > > > > > > > > > This is just plain crazy. We keep hearing how Pentax is behind > > > > (technologically), and now you say they can only bring out > > > something > > > > new every 2 years or so in order that some elitist > attitude can be > > > > sated. Don't you want them to improve their products as much as > > > > possible, as fast as possible? > > > > > > > > If you had your way, when (I know - if) Pentax launch a > > > small sensor > > > > 3-6MP D-SLR, they wont be allowed to bring out a full frame > > > 11MP SLR > > > > for another 2 years! Get a grip man and just enjoy what > > > you have for > > > > what it is - a camera, not a status symbol. If you > want a status > > > > symbol go and buy a Leica. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: 12 September 2002 05:02 > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Mishka, > > > > > > > > > > Of course I understand that, we'd all be in the dark ages > > > if things > > > > > didn't keep improving. :) All I ask (to the camera > > > > > gods) is that I want to enjoy having the top Pentax, for a > > > > > couple years anyhow. > > > > > > > > > > Brad Dobo > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:53 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brad, > > > > > > I hate to break it to you, but I'm pretty sure that a few > > > > > > years > > > > > > *after* > > > > > the > > > > > > new flagship comes out, there will be a newer, even better > > > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > And so on, and on, and on... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
