Hi,

I want refresh this thread, because latest luna milestone will be at 9 may. 
Next builds in theory should be RC.
Any plan for this?

Besides MPC have now public api [1]

[1] - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=432803 

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From: Kaloyan Raev [email protected]
Reply: PDT Developers [email protected]
Date: 18 grudnia 2013 at 22:30:32
To: PDT Developers [email protected]
Subject:  Re: [pdt-dev] preliminary Eclipse PHP package  

Hi Dawid, 

> Here https://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Extensions is draft version of plugin list 
> (only some plugins from pdt-extensions.org). 
> Any suggestions?
> Is the chosen document format ok?

Thanks for starting this wiki. The format is good for start, we can adjust it 
later as needed.

I added just a few of the features of Zend Studio that can be listed. 

So far, I can see that we will have around 10 categories with a number of 
features (between 1 and 20) in each of them. There will be both open source and 
commercial features, and even some features (e.g. PHPUnit) will have an open 
source and commercial alternatives.

This looks pretty similar to the Mylyn case. Please, have a look at the Mylyn 
Connector Discovery. It seems to me like a good fit for our case too. We can 
use the same technology for "PDT Extension Discovery".

Greetings,
Kaloyan


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Dawid Pakuła <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi

Here https://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Extensions is draft version of plugin list 
(only some plugins from pdt-extensions.org). 
Any suggestions?
Is the chosen document format ok?
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From: Dawid Pakuła Dawid Pakuła
Reply: Dawid Pakuła [email protected]
Date: 18 grudnia 2013 at 14:09:43

To: PDT Developers [email protected]
Subject:  Re: [pdt-dev] preliminary Eclipse PHP package
Hi,

I think we can copy-paste plugins from PDT Extension Group [1] if they are 
available on Eclipse Marketplace.

@Kaloyan I will try tonight

[1] http://p2-dev.pdt-extensions.org/
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From: Kaloyan Raev Kaloyan Raev
Reply: PDT Developers [email protected]
Date: 18 grudnia 2013 at 13:50:41
To: PDT Developers [email protected]
Subject:  Re: [pdt-dev] preliminary Eclipse PHP package
Adding an “Extend your PHP IDE” link on the Welcome screen that launches an 
arbitrary UI is easy.

I guess we now need to build the list of all potential plugins that would end 
in this plugin browser. Then we can start experimenting with the browser design 
so it fits to the complexity of the list we have.

How about collecting all the plugins on a wiki page first, e.g. 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Extensions ?
Dawid, do you want to take the first round?

Greetings,
Kaloyan


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Dawid Pakuła <[email protected]> wrote:
I think about this:

On welcome screen special button with for ex text: “Extend your PHP IDE” 
After click on it, widget/window will be opened with simple (but user friendly) 
plugin browser (categories, tags etc).
On each plugin lead will be two buttons: Read more (open full market place 
info), Install (start install process)

But how, where and by who data for this widget should be stored and collected I 
have no idea:

Option 1: 
Probably as XML stored somewhere in eclipse infrastructure (in appropriate git 
repo?).
Would be nice to read as many as we can information directly from marketplace 
(stars, description, comments

Option 2:
Use appropriate list of tags/categories/special markets and read all 
informations from marketplace (example tags: PHP, JavaScript, CSS, HTML). But 
in this model, we will be without control on content.

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From: Kaloyan Raev Kaloyan Raev
Reply: PDT Developers [email protected]
Date: 18 grudnia 2013 at 10:10:56
To: PDT Developers [email protected]
Subject:  Re: [pdt-dev] preliminary Eclipse PHP package
Yes, there is a number of plugins, which are not hosted at eclipse.org and 
hence not included in the EPP package that can really enhance the experience of 
PHP developers. 

It would be great if we can somehow promote them on the Welcome screen. If we 
have them all registered at the Eclipse Marketplace, perhaps it will be 
possible to make them easily discovered from the PHP EPP package.

Eclipse Foundation tdoes not prohibit (and even encourages) promoting Eclipse 
extensions (both open-source or proprietary) as long as all parties are treated 
equally (a.k.a. vendor neutrality).

Dawid, Jacek, do you have an opinion how such promotion can be designed in the 
EPP package?

Greetings,
Kaloyan 


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Dawid Pakuła <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi

interesting logo ;)

Would be nice to add special welcome page with shortcuts to install most 
popular plugins like jQuery, EclipseColorThemes etc.
If this is possible, and allowed be the rules of the Eclipse Foundation.
As I remember this was suggested by Kaloyan Raev on PDT Extensions Platform 
discussion group.

I think that also RSE (Remote System Explorer) should be bundled with this 
package.

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From: Jacek Pospychała Jacek Pospychała
Reply: PDT Developers [email protected]
Date: 17 grudnia 2013 at 20:27:04
To: PDT Developers [email protected]
Subject:  [pdt-dev] preliminary Eclipse PHP package
hi,
we're looking at having a PHP package on www.eclipse.org/downloads
page for Luna release (June 2014): a downloadable and executable
Eclipse preconfigured exclusively for PHP devs.

There's an initial package available for testing, so if there's
anybody willing to give it a try and share their feedback, please go
to
https://hudson.eclipse.org/packaging/job/luna.epp-tycho-build/

and look for Eclipse PHP product package, e.g. direct link to
currently latest build #30:
https://hudson.eclipse.org/packaging/job/luna.epp-tycho-build/30/artifact/org.eclipse.epp.packages/packages/org.eclipse.epp.package.php.product/target/products/

Jacek
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