I understand the point you are making, but that's not really my goal in
what I had written. If it's just 30 people using PDT, and they are
interested in supporting it, that's fine. We're not looking to dismount
PHPStorm or VSCode or anything else from their positions. We (or, at
least me), want and prefer PDT to be successful because we make use of,
believe in, and want to support free-and-open-source software over
alternatives that are not considered free software.
Therefore, if there are people interested in supporting this project,
then we'll organize whatever efforts we need to take to do so within our
abilities.
Sincerely,
Basil
On 2/17/23 9:19 PM, Jeff Dafoe wrote:
I think the issue is that Jetbrains PHPStorm has pretty much replaced PDT
*From:* pdt-dev <pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> *On Behalf Of *Basil
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*Subject:* Re: [pdt-dev] Financial or other support to get PDT up to
PHP 8.x support?
I reached out to Dawid directly about a month-and-a-half ago, but
unfortunately I received no response. I get the feeling the current
maintainer is either unable or unwilling to continue running the
project. I hope that I can be proven wrong and we get the project
restarted as-is.
With that said, is there any interest from anyone else in taking
action to see if we can petition to have a new maintainer for the
project, perhaps from among ourselves? I don't particular want it, I
cannot even program in Java, but I am devoted user of PDT and
concerned for its future, and would love to facilitate a process that
kickstarts development again. Sadly, there are few to no other
alternatives that, like PDT, are truly cross-platform,
free-and-open-source, comprehensive IDEs for PHP web development.
VSCodium may have the chops, but it's not a pleasant experience for me
and I hate being tied to MS.
At a minimum, if the platform can be updated to support up through
8.2, that'd be a huge step forward. I am willing to explore
sponsoring development in that direction, whether from myself (can't
afford much) or organizing a campaign and even hiring someone from
Upwork or similar, unless someone on the list wants to take a crack at
it first.
So, basically, I'm proposing, if we have a compelling case to continue
development, to petition the Eclipse foundation to transfer or at
least open-up ownership of this project to someone who can lead it
further down.
Alternatively, we can always fork it, but I'd rather exhaust all
options for the original project continue forward before forking and
losing the history we have with this project and its associated history.
Any thoughts? I hope I'm not the only one.
Sincerely,
Basil
On 12/2/22 9:17 AM, Alexander McKee wrote:
Hi Basil,
I think the main issue is that there is only one PDT developer,
Dawid, who is intermittently active. I tried to get involved,
there's still a PR open, but unfortunately it doesn't seem help is
welcome.
I even sponsored Dawid using GitHub's sponsorship feature for a while.
I don't want to make it about Dawid, he's clearly done a lot of
work on PDT over the years but he is also evidently not working
consistently on PDT and the product is suffering as a result.
I wish he would work with other people to help enable more
development to take place.
I am using PHPStorm now but I wish I could use an open source
product like PDT.
Alex
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*Cc:* Basil Mohamed Gohar <basilgo...@hidayahtech.com>
<mailto:basilgo...@hidayahtech.com>
*Subject:* [pdt-dev] Financial or other support to get PDT up to
PHP 8.x support?
I'd like to offer to help get some kind of support, whether
financial or otherwise, to the PDT project in order to get
development going again, especially with regards to PHP 8.2
support, which is just about to be released. As it stands now,
PDT only supports up to 7.4.
Please let me know if there's some way that we can bring in
support from outside, whether through sponsors or development
resources, and if so, how best we can manage that.
I don't want to pressure the core developers, rather, I just want
to offer support. Sadly, I'm not fluent in Java so I don't think
I can contribute directly, else I would have long ago.
I hope this garners some support, because I love PDT as a tool and
I would love to keep using it, but there are key features in the
latest versions of PHP (such as the /match/ construct) that just
aren't recognized and are parsed as errors in PDT currently.
Sincerely,
Basil
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