where is the free version ?
in only see a 30 trial version
also what is the real risk of virus infection if:
1]
you are literate
(i.e., don't click on attachments unless you what what you are doing, etc.)
2]
are behind a simple NAT firewall
3]
don't use MS email SW
in other words given above do we really need this AV junk at all?
i am thinking of going naked
Dennis Saputelli
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Robert Mitchell wrote:
I also use AVG, the free version, on my (slow) notebook and find it
works well. The T'bird plug in operates as a proxy server and, as
someone said, scans emails as they come in an pulls of any infected
files it detects. These are placed in a directory called the virus vault
so that you can deal with them later if you wish. It can also be set to
mark both incoming and outgoing emails as having been checked and passed
as virus free.
I do not know what happens if I try to open an infected file since, to
the best of my knowledge, this has never happened.
It automatically updates the virus definitions and warns you if it fails
to do so and the definitions are out of date.
There are some minor niggles with it. I have it set up to scan files
automatically daily but the free version does not appear to give me any
option as to when the scan takes place and so it starts at 0800 and runs
until about 0930. When it is doing the scan it runs at a high priority
and seveerely slows anything else I try to do, which is usually reading
email, and there is nothing I can do either to change the time it runs
or reduce its priority. All I can do is pause it or stop it but I then
forget to resume scanning. I suspect that the paid-for version would do
better in this regard and it may not be an issue on a faster machine.
Outside of the scanning time, I can use Protel (99SE) quite happily on
this computer.
I have an old NAV on a W98 machine on my network and manually update the
virus definitions regularly. It is capable of scanning files on network
shares and I have done this in the past. However I struck a problem here
with some Linux Samba shares where the scanning became recursive because
of the way various file structures were mounted and linked on the Linux
box, and it would never terminate. Something to be fixed later, but of
very low priority. Since the W98 box is not used a great deal, when it
does scan network files it does not interfere significantly with
anything else that is going on and could be timed to operate overnight.
As far as I can recall, when I was using the W98 box for protel, there
was not any significant issue with NAV, but remember it is an old
version but on a slow old computer.
Dennis Saputelli wrote:
to answer the original question i am not aware and have not experienced
any trouble between Norton anti-virus and Protel 99SE
this is not to say that Norton does not suck however
(boy, that was a great sentence!)
i think aj's comment are about right
i have Norton AV and i find it works
quite well when it is disabled :)
seriously, with 7 machines all popping up Norton messages begging for my
credit card to re-subscribe in the next few days i am not going to do it
i have heard good things about AVG software
http://www.grisoft.com/
i have not tried it yet, but i will
one warning/combo question
when using Norton AV and Thunderbird mail program and a virus rolls in
an attachment, Norton correctly spots it (if not disabled) and the puts
a lock on the file
well in TBIRD the INBOX is a single file so all the message therein are
lost short of some heroics
this is of course a major nuisance
but the question is how do other programs handle this issue ?
i can see why it works the way it does
my working solution is a wonderful program (highly recommended) called
MailWasher
it lists all of the messages on all of the servers for all your email
accounts, just the subject and a few lines
easy to use and cheap enough for what it offers
then it automatically spots the virii and spam, you
hit 'process' and they are zapped from the servers before you ever
download them
ds
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2851 21st Street Fax: 415-647-3003
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing I've noticed about the curent anti-virus paradigm is that the
software is constantly scanning. Here at my workplace, our MIS
department has McAfee installed, and it scans each and every file
accessed at any time, along with daily scans of each and every file on
my system). In other words, the program is, for all intents and
purposes, constantly in the foreground, grinding away on the harddrive
and eating up memory and processor power. The nuymber of page faults
generated daily by this software is also quite staggering, and peak
memory usage is in the neighborhood of 75-80M.
You could always do what some other professionals do, and disable
auto-scanning by your antiviral software. Instead of relying on the
anti-viral software to manage your computer (as is the default behavior
for the average-minded, stupid consumer or paranoid MIS department,
desperate to avoid any contamination of networked computers due to the
fact that many of those same consumers also have computers at work),
perform periodic scans manually yourself. For instance, when you
download a customer file, scan it. Just don't scan the entire hard drive
every time you get a single new file...
My two cents. Probably be ignored as another crazy Jenkinsism or
re-stated by someone else here to their credit, but that's okay. At
least I tried.
aj
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks,Bill
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:29 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Discussion List'
Subject: [PEDA] Norton Antivirus software... interfere with Protel?
Does anyone have any data that would indicate that the slow
performance of Protel 99SE on a windows 2000 Professional based
system could be related to the Norton Antivirus program interaction
with it?
Lately my system is really running slow... I have 99SE and DXP 2004
on my system...
Any help much appreciated...
Best regards,
Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 Datron World
Communications, Inc.
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