so a question in 99SE we have made a unique schematic symbol for each part in our MRP (external) database
the schematic part has a 'part value' of our in-house number, other fields are filled in the schematic just for fun and local eng info to make it comprehensible then i make BOM (CSV report) from the sch with one part per line with ONLY the following info: R1,123-4567 R2,123-4568 C2,124-4567 etc. this is all i need to auto-load into our MRP and make a perfect bom in that system (relies on the BOM Sorter posted here - thanks to author David Watling for this great tool) so the question is this will this work with the multi channel stuff in AD 6.0? i would think yes Dennis Saputelli _______________________________________________________________________ Integrated Controls, Inc. Tel: 415-647-0480 EXT 107 2851 21st Street Fax: 415-647-3003 San Francisco, CA 94110 www.integratedcontrolsinc.com John A. Ross [RSDTV] wrote: > Dennis > > Its not as bad as it looks. > > To get the use out of multi channel feature and snippets all you need to do > is just understand how the links work and how it controls the annotation, I > did not make a lot of use of Multi channel until AD6, as it lacked any > method of documenting the design as if it was a physical one, but it is well > use able now. > > The links are easy enough, I would be surprised if it took you more than an > hour to nail them down. > > The multi channel feature works very well now, it works a LOT better now as > a lot of improvements were made to this between Protel2004/SP4 and AD6 > > The multi channel feature will save you time. > > But the Multi channel feature needs to be carefully thought, it has some > hitches which limits it even now, but I am pushing hard to get this changed. > > > The documentation now works and you can print the schematics as a physical > representation of the design, but you will be working with "virtual" or > "logical" sheets inside the design environment instead of physical ones. > > If you use generic symbols for R's, C's etc you can even change these values > within the logical sheets by using the "parametric hierarchy" feature. > *BUT* and there usually is one, if you use fixed parts with lots of > attributes and part numbers (one sch symbol per resistor value type of deal) > then the multi channel feature will fall over at documentation as it will > not support substitution of parts per se, but you can manipulate the parts > parameters themselves manually. I just found out variants are the same. > > The panel approach to manipulating information IMO is a piece of junk and > the worst thought out UI I have seen in a long time. A couple of panels will > save bucket loads of time as you can edit things "spread sheet style", the > parameter manager is a life saver sometimes, especially in the library > editors. But once you get the use of the short cuts you can skip most of > them. > > For height restricted assemblies and stacked board assemblies component > bodies will save time also as the DRC can be set up to use height parameters > also, as well as checking for interference fits. > > The additional ability to format the BOM using an excel template is also > sweet. > > But if the board gets big, be prepared to take a performance hit compared to > 99SE, the layout editor will be nowhere near as responsive in AD6 compared > to 99SE. > > For edits, revisions & quick fixes, I still use 99SE for designs created in > 99SE, as the amount of time to import, validate, remove compiler errors etc > in AD6 just takes too long than it does just to edit it in 99SE in the first > place. > > But all new designs I do in AD since SP4. > > Just a few comments for what they are worth. > > BTW this was not posted to the PEDA list, I really cannot stomach the > "moderators" approach to my posts. > > John > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Saputelli >>Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:31 AM >>To: Protel EDA Discussion List >>Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ? it is here >> >> >>well i got AD 6.0 ! >> >>it comes in a real nice looking box >> >>the 'if you break this seal' thing on the CDs was pre-broken, >>so i guess i am not bound :) >> >>other than a brief foray w/ DXP when it first came out and a >>bit later w/ SP1 i basically skipped over that whole >>generation (i was highly >>unimpressed) >> >>but now looking at this 6.0 for only an hour or so so far i >>must say it looks quite impressive, albeit quite daunting >> >>there are zillions of screens and panels but they really did >>some things that look appealing: >> >>there are net labels printed along all the tracks >> >>truetype fonts on the PCB (more than a glossy feature really >>as it allows languages and 'negative' printing) >> >>the flip view allows editing flipped >> >>the smart paste looks useful AND productivity enhancing >> >>you can move stuff by typing a relative co-ord which i really >>like as an old time acad'er >> >>the single layer view is way better with the 3 modes it now offers >> >>the preserve track angle looks real impressive in their movie >>demo, this looks like it could save REAL time if you watch their movie >> >>the installation and license drill all went without a hitch >> >>the heads up display thingy looks dandy, not sure if it is >>really useful yet though >> >>2 things i didn't see which i really would like (unless i >>missed them): >> >>a TEXT BOX type entry for PCB for notes and tables (is it there ?) >> >>a way to put notes on the schematic but not necessarily >>distribute or print them - not sure how this could be >>implemented though - this is for things like current ratings >>or musings about performance or problems or thoughts about >>future ideas and changes or options i realize these could be >>put elsewhere but IMHO it would be great on the working sch >>prints something like a show/hide for sch text boxes would work for me >> >>now i hardly know where to start! >>i have a large project looming and it could use the multi >>channel stuff but i am very leery about adopting this new >>tool as i am a babe in these >> woods, >>i can't afford to slip the schedule while i make mistakes and >>learn about this beast which is quite a bit more complicated that 99SE >> >>what to do, what to do .... ? >> >>Dennis Saputelli >> >>______________________________________________________________ >>_________ >>Integrated Controls, Inc. 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