Dear Gary, lists -
But pain involves secondness - it is not imagined pain - you refer to real pain 
which implies there's something actually acting in your eye - so it is not the 
pure quality, it is quality coupled with the insistence of secondness. Your 
blinking eye works in order to get rid of the existing particle, not only to 
address a quality of feeling. By the same token, pain involves thirdness - the 
complex of pain and blinking reflex has a purpose, that of cleaning your eye, 
and behind that is a biological habit acquired over millenia of selection. So 
the felt pain is only prescinded from this background … that would be my 
version …  Qualities without secondness are but possibilities …
Best
F

Den 26/04/2015 kl. 18.46 skrev Gary Richmond 
<gary.richm...@gmail.com<mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com>>
:

John,

I experience qualities as such and often before I've labeled them x, y, or z. 
Walking along the street on a windy day a sharp dust particle hits my eye. 
Although there is certainly some secondness involved, I experience pain before 
I think 'pain'. Maybe other people do experience such things differently.

Best,

Gary

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