Dear Gary, lists - But pain involves secondness - it is not imagined pain - you refer to real pain which implies there's something actually acting in your eye - so it is not the pure quality, it is quality coupled with the insistence of secondness. Your blinking eye works in order to get rid of the existing particle, not only to address a quality of feeling. By the same token, pain involves thirdness - the complex of pain and blinking reflex has a purpose, that of cleaning your eye, and behind that is a biological habit acquired over millenia of selection. So the felt pain is only prescinded from this background … that would be my version … Qualities without secondness are but possibilities … Best F
Den 26/04/2015 kl. 18.46 skrev Gary Richmond <gary.richm...@gmail.com<mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com>> : John, I experience qualities as such and often before I've labeled them x, y, or z. Walking along the street on a windy day a sharp dust particle hits my eye. Although there is certainly some secondness involved, I experience pain before I think 'pain'. Maybe other people do experience such things differently. Best, Gary
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