Dear Jerry and list Yes, how we through Peirce’s theory can reconcile the scientific knowledge we have gathered about material and mental causality.
Look forward to read your paper when it is ready. Søren From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com] Sent: 21. oktober 2016 17:20 To: Peirce List Cc: Søren Brier Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology) Soren: Would it be fair to say that you seek to understand how CSP’s writings relate to scientific causality? I think it is fair to ask if Jon’s views on engineering wrt CSP writings are typical of modern engineering disciplines, such as chemical engineering and molecular-biological engineering in which specific causal processes must be arranged from the body of scientific information (chemical / biological) available. Within the professions, these are referred to a “scale-up” problems. Or, otherwise as “from the lab-bench to production”. BTW, Soren, on a personal note and in reference to an earlier exchange here (2014?) on the role of electricity in bio-cybernetics / biosemiotics, I have just finished writing a paper -An Introduction to the Foundations of Chemical Information Theory. Tarski – Lesniewski Logical Structures and the Organization of Natural Sorts and Kinds. Indirectly, it draws on certain aspects of CSP logic, as well as the views of M. Malatesta’s on meta-languages. But, it focuses the meaning of quanta of electricity and the relations to symmetry. It will be submitted for publication after colleagues have provided comments. Cheers Jerry On Oct 21, 2016, at 5:05 AM, Søren Brier <sb....@cbs.dk<mailto:sb....@cbs.dk>> wrote: Jeff. List My problem – probably arising from my scientific background as a biologist – is that I still do not see how Peirce explains in cosmogonical terms how we get from Peirce semiotic objective idealism with the universe as a grand argument to a physical as well as chemical theory of matter. How do we get from the three universes to the world we are in today, with its physically real problem of global warming? Best Søren From: Jerry Rhee [mailto:jerryr...@gmail.com] Sent: 21. oktober 2016 01:17 To: Søren Brier Cc: Jon Alan Schmidt; Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology) Soren, list: I don’t see why you’re having problems with seeing how this is possible without a recognition of the independent reality of embodied conscious subjects living in language and culture. Could you not simply look to the best example that embodies this integration of phaneroscopic metaphysics that is combined with ethics, esthetics, logic; that is combined with tychism, ananchism, agapism (together, synechism); which supports the triadic process of semiotic through pragmaticism? Best, Jerry R On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Søren Brier <sb....@cbs.dk<mailto:sb....@cbs.dk>> wrote: Jon and list Difficult question. The choice of phenomenology and to combine it with pure mathematics is in itself metaphysical. Out of this combination develops phaneroscopic metaphysics, which develop worlds and which is again combined with ethic, aesthetics and logic as semiotics. This is again combined with Tychism, synechism and agapism, which are partly independent of the three categories but supports the development of the triadic process semiotics, and his pragmaticism, from which a theory of meaning of a sign is developed. But I still have problems in seeing how this is possible without a recognition of the independent reality of embodied conscious subjects living in language and culture. Søren From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com<mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com>] Sent: 20. oktober 2016 18:22 To: Søren Brier Cc: Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology) Søren, List: Are you saying that the Categories are phaneroscopic, while the Universes are metaphysical? Thanks, Jon On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Søren Brier <sb....@cbs.dk<mailto:sb....@cbs.dk>> wrote: I suggest that in a phaneroscopic process ontology the categories will develop into worlds. Søren From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com<mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com>] Sent: 20. oktober 2016 15:34 To: Søren Brier Cc: Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology) Søren, List: SB: I think it is fair to say that the categories do form three distinct different universes. Just to clarify--are you saying that the categories and the universes are the same? Thanks, Jon ----------------------------- PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu<mailto:peirce-L@list.iupui.edu> . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L but to l...@list.iupui.edu<mailto:l...@list.iupui.edu> with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . ----------------------------- PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. 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