Clark, List:

Not at all, and I agree with you about the distinction between pre-modern
trades and modern engineering.  I think that the fairly ubiquitous use
of *mathematical
*models (i.e., diagrams) to *analyze *artifacts in advance of actually
making or building them is what mainly distinguishes the latter.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:50 PM, CLARK GOBLE <cl...@lextek.com> wrote:

>
> On Mar 1, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Your points are well-taken.  As I observed at the end of the article,
> modern engineering reasoning relies largely on the relatively stable habits
> of matter, whereas ethical deliberation involves the much more malleable
> habits of mind that manifest in human behavior.  We can model the former
> quite successfully with mathematics, but the latter are typically amenable
> only to less reliably predictive approaches, such as narrative.
>
>
> Oh fully agree and I hope you didn’t take me as dismissive. I rather liked
> it. I just think that pre-modern vs. modern where science and engineering
> become intertwined is very different even though both depend upon
> stabilities in matter.
>
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